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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 11:50 AM

Erdman is pretty good. Deaton appears like a weak egghead though.

Fish · 10-21-2011, 11:51 AM

Really sounds like they're gone..

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Never happen.

Ever.

That's why I was asking. No way the SEC anything comes to KC.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-21-2011, 11:52 AM

Man, people are dumb. It was clear we were gone as soon as Deaton was given the authority.

evenfall · 10-21-2011, 11:53 AM

Completely agree. If KU is too butthurt to play the football game, let's play K-State. Would be tons of fun, and a better opponent most years too.

Fish · 10-21-2011, 11:53 AM

Whatever they decide, it will go into effect next year....

Is that what I just heard?

DJ's left nut · 10-21-2011, 11:53 AM

This could not be more obvious. I've gotta give MU credit here, this was masterfully done by a generally ham-fisted institution.

WilliamTheIrish · 10-21-2011, 11:53 AM

I thought Deaton even showed well. Clearly, it's not his element, but he did well.
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kstater · 10-21-2011, 11:54 AM

So Mizzou is basically proposing the Baylor estroball coaches' hypothetical right? They want a divorce and still want to sleep together.

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 11:54 AM

Mizzou anticipates being in a conference for next year if they leave. That's a good sign.

**Bearcat** · 10-21-2011, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Is that how you read this situation?

It's how I'm reading the thread. It doesn't really matter what the official reason was for the press conference, speculating like that is reeruned from their point of view... let the fans do that. I'm sure they're supremely confident the deal is done, and I'm sure there's a lot we haven't heard about to make the final votes seem like a formality, but instead of grandstanding, they could just wait 5 more days or whatever until it's actually official.

ChiefsCountry · 10-21-2011, 11:54 AM

Mizzou is good as gone. Board did a pretty good PR job today in KC. Don't announce you are leaving the Big 12 in KC. Announce a basketball tournament and football game for KC. Throw that in KU's court. It would be better to announce you are leaving for the SEC in Columbia.

**dirk digler** · 10-21-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

They're not announcing they are leaving Big 12 in KC. Good call, emotions too high right now.

Fair point.

**Saul Good** · 10-21-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Because very few outside MO and KS gives a rats ass.

Of course the Big XII schools don't care. Neither do the Big East schools who are looking to take Mizzou's spot. Neither do the SEC schools who would be accepting a new member. Neither do the PAC schools who are looking to poach Big XII schools if they get desperate...

|Zach| · 10-21-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

It's how I'm reading the thread. It doesn't really matter what the official reason was for the press conference, speculating like that is reeruned from their point of view... let the fans do that. I'm sure they're supremely confident the deal is done, and I'm sure there's a lot we haven't heard about to make the final votes seem like a formality, but instead of grandstanding, they could just wait 5 more days or whatever until it's actually official.

This was about Kansas City today.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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eazyb81 The Illuminati eazyb81's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled	Erdman is pretty good. Deaton appears like a weak egghead though.
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10-21-2011, 11:51 AM	#6122
Fish Ain't no relax! Fish's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2005	Really sounds like they're gone..
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evenfall Starter Join Date: Jul 2011	Completely agree. If KU is too butthurt to play the football game, let's play K-State. Would be tons of fun, and a better opponent most years too.
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10-21-2011, 11:53 AM	#6126
Fish Ain't no relax! Fish's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2005	Whatever they decide, it will go into effect next year.... Is that what I just heard?
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kstater Custom User Title kstater's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2007	So Mizzou is basically proposing the Baylor estroball coaches' hypothetical right? They want a divorce and still want to sleep together.
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eazyb81 The Illuminati eazyb81's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled	Mizzou anticipates being in a conference for next year if they leave. That's a good sign.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider ChiefsCountry's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks	Mizzou is good as gone. Board did a pretty good PR job today in KC. Don't announce you are leaving the Big 12 in KC. Announce a basketball tournament and football game for KC. Throw that in KU's court. It would be better to announce you are leaving for the SEC in Columbia.
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