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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

BigCatDaddy · 10-21-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

To be honest, I'm surprised that something hasn't leaked yet. The way info has been leaking in the past, I really expected to see something on ESPN that said "MU reportedly votes to leave Big 12, apply to SEC" by now.

Because very few outside MO and KS gives a rats ass.

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Because very few outside MO and KS gives a rats ass.

True. But MU hasn't been able to keep anything quiet - someone has always leaked info dating back to them flirting with the Big 10 last year.....I just figured I'd see something by now.

**HemiEd** · 10-21-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

He makes a good point about the bowl games. The Big XII has contracts with 7 bowls, and only 3 of them are in Big XII states (surprisingly, all in Texas).

We can schedule bowl games outside the Big XII footprint but not a basketball tournament?

Also, the Big XII is pretty much giving up Kansas City as a market if they move the tourney. There will still be alums of KU and KSU, but the casual, unaffiliated fan won't grow up bonding with the conference from their experiences in the Big XII tourney. They'll have to settle for watching football games against Florida, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, etc. and basketball games against Kentucky, Florida, Arkansas, and Tennessee.

You have such a consistent slant on things, it is really prettyfunny. Weather has a a lot to do with the location of the bowl games, and Texas, along with it's population, makes the most sense of all the Big 12 locations. St Louis bowl? LOL

Will the casual Kansas City fan not be exposed to Vandy and Kentucky football?

Will the casual Kansas City fan not be exposed to Auburn and Mississippi basketball?

Just a guess, but I would bet the BB fans will be watching games being played by the basketball schools KU and K State.

Pants · 10-21-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Because very few outside MO and KS gives a rats ass.

I'm pretty sure the fans of the schools in the conferences care about the changing landscape. I want to know whether MU is staying or leaving.

Mr. Plow · 10-21-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I'm pretty sure the fans of the schools in the conferences care about the changing landscape. I want to know whether MU is staying or leaving.

Aaaaaannnnnnddddd.....you're in KS.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-21-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

KCTV5 is streaming the press conference. There have been a few shots of a nice fanny pack but no one with Mizzou yet.

http://www.kctv5.com/category/215375...ivestream-mva2

I can't imagine they'd make such a big announcement in such a shitty room.

BigCatDaddy · 10-21-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

I'm pretty sure the fans of the schools in the conferences care about the changing landscape. I want to know whether MU is staying or leaving.

810 had OU's announcer on a week or two ago and basically said nobody there gives Missouri leaving or staying a second thought (referring to fan base). So you can imagine how much the east coast brass that is ESPN cares.

Braincase · 10-21-2011, 10:47 AM

Bowl games typically involve two teams from different conferences. The Big XII Basketball tournament is monolithic by nature. Now, the NCAA tourney is a different story, and I fully expect KC to host a portion of the NCAA tournament.

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

810 had OU's announcer on a week or two ago and basically said nobody there gives Missouri leaving or staying a second thought (referring to fan base).

Shocking, OU and UT fans only care about OU and UT.

Stunning insight bro. Keep bringin the heat.

**Bearcat** · 10-21-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You have such a consistent slant on things, it is really prettyfunny. Weather has a a lot to do with the location of the bowl games, and Texas, along with it's population, makes the most sense of all the Big 12 locations. St Louis bowl? LOL

Will the casual Kansas City fan not be exposed to Vandy and Kentucky football?

Will the casual Kansas City fan not be exposed to Auburn and Mississippi basketball?

Just a guess, but I would the BB fans will be watching games being played by the basketball schools KU and K State.

No.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-21-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

I can't imagine they'd make such a big announcement in such a shitty room.

Typical hayseed Mizzou.

BigCatDaddy · 10-21-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

I can't imagine they'd make such a big announcement in such a shitty room.

Not a bad looking blonde in the front row though.

eazyb81 · 10-21-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

I can't imagine they'd make such a big announcement in such a shitty room.

Can't afford a nicer room right now. Remember we are still in the Big 12.

**HemiEd** · 10-21-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

No.

So Mizzou will only be playing the good teams in their respective sport?

Gotcha

BigCatDaddy · 10-21-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Shocking, OU and UT fans only care about OU and UT.

Stunning insight bro. Keep bringin the heat.

I think 46 other states feel the same way.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Braincase Banned Braincase's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pond> Me <Barn	Bowl games typically involve two teams from different conferences. The Big XII Basketball tournament is monolithic by nature. Now, the NCAA tourney is a different story, and I fully expect KC to host a portion of the NCAA tournament.
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