Why is offense/scoring down in the league the past few years?

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Teams would be better off going back to a traditional pocket passer. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of college quarterbacks running a pro style offense anymore,


Yeah, Iowa is the only one that runs a "pro style" offense in college anymore.

Immobile pocket passers aren't coming back.

FYP

and as an Iowa fan it is boring and sucks

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by O.city

So I'm trying to figure out what's happening here, anyone have any ideas?

Is it just that defenses have caught up to the offenses or?

It's called the Fangio cover 6. Simply stated defenses are covering with six players to not allow the offenses to throw down the field. So you've got to play this methodical near mistake-free football and you have to complete a lot of passes around the line of scrimmage which is the West Coast offense.

The best team in the league the past few years at beating the Fangio cover 6 is the Kansas City Chiefs and they do so by running 3-1 splits better than anybody.

[bringbackmarty]

There is a limit to how far and fast a qb can throw on offense within a given window if the pass rush is getting home or even close to getting home. You can always drop more into coverage and slow the game down.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

It's Cover 6 with the following look:

Split the field in half with two deep safeties.

Cover 4 to the side with most passing assets, Cover 2 to the other side.

Commit to running the ball and you'll destroy it.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's Cover 6 with the following look:

Split the field in half with two deep safeties.

Cover 4 to the side with most passing assets, Cover 2 to the other side.

Commit to running the ball and you'll destroy it.

There was a bit of conversation on Twitter today among analytics folks wondering if the efficiency of running plays is going to catch up to passing. It's been trending that way and week 1 this year was skewed toward running efficiency, although to be fair most of that was due to QB scrambling. But even some of that could be argued is a result of defenses playing such safe pass coverage. It's certainly helped Mahomes. It seems defenses should just keep playing the odds and forcing teams into long drives where one drop or penalty can mess you up. It makes sense from an efficiency standpoint.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by tk13

There was a bit of conversation on Twitter today among analytics folks wondering if the efficiency of running plays is going to catch up to passing. It's been trending that way and week 1 this year was skewed toward running efficiency, although to be fair most of that was due to QB scrambling. But even some of that could be argued is a result of defenses playing such safe pass coverage. It's certainly helped Mahomes. It seems defenses should just keep playing the odds and forcing teams into long drives where one drop or penalty can mess you up. It makes sense from an efficiency standpoint.

It seems Jim Harbaugh is coming back into the NFL at the right moment. Obviously he is escaping the NCAA violation problems at Michigan. But he has always focused heavily on the run game, and now he'll be going against a bunch of defenses focused on slowing down the passing game. That plays right into what he prefers to do as a coach.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by DRM08

It seems Jim Harbaugh is coming back into the NFL at the right moment. Obviously he is escaping the NCAA violation problems at Michigan. But he has always focused heavily on the run game, and now he'll be going against a bunch of defenses focused on slowing down the passing game. That plays right into what he prefers to do as a coach.

And unlike clueless orgs like the Texans and Colts he knows you protect the franchise first. You pay your O line and grab your play makers from the dollar bin. A good QB can make average very good but he's got to be upright and healthy.

He will win playoff games eventually. Not super bowls or topping Mahomes, but he'll get them some...

[Woogieman]

Originally Posted by DRM08

It seems Jim Harbaugh is coming back into the NFL at the right moment. Obviously he is escaping the NCAA violation problems at Michigan. But he has always focused heavily on the run game, and now he'll be going against a bunch of defenses focused on slowing down the passing game. That plays right into what he prefers to do as a coach.

Agree, the pendulum always swings and you have to be on the leading edge. His play action heavy schemes will likely give the Chiefs fits, as they always have/do, all the way back to when he was under center.

[O.city]

Good discussion here fellas.

Take away explosive plays, make them be methodical. Especially with the lack of practice time, that becomes more difficult.

[Woogieman]

I vote for:
-poor QB play. NFL GMs are desperate for "the next PM or LJ" and due to the more sophisticated offenses in high school, QB camps, and College, rookies APPEAR to be ready to contribute immediately, but it appears they suffer from not having the year or more apprenticeship that was standard for decades. Some learn, some get overwhelmed by the pressure and poor class habits. I believe that Ds are incredibly fast, especially CBs, but I think teams badly undervalue a "Purdy", and overvalue a "Willis". QB is hard to get right, but you have to have a guy that understands what he sees at the LOS.

[el borracho]

Other teams have seen the Chiefs and just given up.

[DJ's left nut]

For the record, I HATE it. I don't think the Chiefs should be running that cloud coverage much at all. And by and large they don't.

If they score, they score. Fine, whatever.

This defense should be aggressive. It should be physical and attack. If they gash you, let them gash you quickly and get the ball back to your offense. The last thing I want to see is this team getting 55 offensive plays/gm.

Stay aggressive, win quickly or die trying. Create a quick punt, turnover or fast touchdown drive in the process. And in the process you'll be better equipped in the red zone than teams that are so passive (those teams get brutalized inside the 20, IMO). And now you're more likely to turn a 7 into a 3, which is a win for this team.

Teams with good offenses shouldn't be running the Fangio crap.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

For the record, I HATE it. I don't think the Chiefs should be running that cloud coverage much at all. And by and large they don't.

If they score, they score. Fine, whatever.

This defense should be aggressive. It should be physical and attack. If they gash you, let them gash you quickly and get the ball back to your offense. The last thing I want to see is this team getting 55 offensive plays/gm.

Stay aggressive, win quickly or die trying. Create a quick punt, turnover or fast touchdown drive in the process. And in the process you'll be better equipped in the red zone than teams that are so passive (those teams get brutalized inside the 20, IMO). And now you're more likely to turn a 7 into a 3, which is a win for this team.

Teams with good offenses shouldn't be running the Fangio crap.

Nothing worse than watching the other team run 10 minutes of clock to score a touchdown.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Eliminate zone like the NBA did