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Old 03-26-2020, 11:49 AM   #2
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Yeah, Trivers that's what everyone is waiting for.

That's what i'm gonna try and get. Then I'm gonna lay everyone off and pocket the cash.

No not really.
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Old 03-26-2020, 11:50 AM   #3
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Mortgage must be in place before Feb 15 if you want a loan to cover it.

My scheme is in shambles already.
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Old 03-26-2020, 11:51 AM   #4
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Actually I wouldn't. I'd gladly scale way back on work.

You guys think I wanna be digging around in peoples mouths right now? **** that. Give me capitol to pay everyone and keep the business up for a few months and I'll lock myself away at home.
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Old 03-26-2020, 11:53 AM   #5
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Actually I wouldn't. I'd gladly scale way back on work.

You guys think I wanna be digging around in peoples mouths right now? **** that. Give me capitol to pay everyone and keep the business up for a few months and I'll lock myself away at home.
Yep.
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:43 PM   #6
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Smoking. Suddenly quite heavily.

Great time to pick up that habit.
Never took you for a smoker.

As an asthmatic and a guy that’s seen family members die essentially from smoking I’d urge you to quit. Do something else. Anything else.
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:51 PM   #7
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Never took you for a smoker.

As an asthmatic and a guy that’s seen family members die essentially from smoking I’d urge you to quit. Do something else. Anything else.
Agree 1000 %
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:58 PM   #8
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Never took you for a smoker.

As an asthmatic and a guy that’s seen family members die essentially from smoking I’d urge you to quit. Do something else. Anything else.
Eh - 3/day during the weekdays.

So...kinda.

But yeah, the last two weeks have been just about on the hour. I've spent the last two days trying to anchor myself to the chair to just not go outside. The fact that my actual day to day workload has petered out to damn near nothing combined with the stress of all this is just a real bad combo.

Should probably go get sunflower seeds or something and then just use little 10 minute intervals to chew on 'em.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:47 PM   #9
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Eh - 3/day during the weekdays.

So...kinda.

But yeah, the last two weeks have been just about on the hour. I've spent the last two days trying to anchor myself to the chair to just not go outside. The fact that my actual day to day workload has petered out to damn near nothing combined with the stress of all this is just a real bad combo.

Should probably go get sunflower seeds or something and then just use little 10 minute intervals to chew on 'em.
Sunflower seeds, coffee, gum, video games, guns, whatever.

I’ve had decent luck fighting anxiety and uncertainty by tying onto some big project and grinding. I used to do pretty well with exercise but since my knees are shot it isn’t the same. Sucks ass when your workload has dried up, but find something and plow hard. Revise your project tracking system, billing system, run some numbers on advertising, put together some proposals, just find something that will make you grind and go get it.

In my line of work there are a lot of uncontrollable variables that can **** up a guys business. So I can relate. And just the way I’m wired I’m not built to just sit back and rely on my risk management strategies despite putting a lot of work into them. I have to go somewhere with that energy. I’m guessing you’re the same way. Even if you’re not wired like me, smoking still isn’t it.

Last thing then I’ll shut the hell up. When I was a kid I was big and strong, pretty decent athlete could do a lot of things. Most kids that would lead to being cocky and feeling indestructible. But not me. I have a specific allergen that ****s up my life and I get asthma. I haven’t had an attack in years and medication has come a long way since then, but I had an attack when I was probably 12 that I thought was going to get me. I was working as hard as I could to catch my breath. Seriously. I was laying down giving it everything I had and I was just getting further behind. That’s the most scared I’ve ever been. Couple fairly serious car accidents, a damned close call on the farm almost falling off a roof, nothing compares that fear I felt. Accordingly, I’m fairly sensitive to lung issues and why I’m so passionate about what you probably think is a nothing deal.

I’ll crawl off the soapbox now. All the best man. You seem like good people. Best of luck.
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:03 PM   #10
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I am a lawyer, and I do divorces. My income from that has dropped by 82% since March 6th. Much of the income that I have had since then has been from pre-existing clients making payments on their accounts.

My phone is usually ringing off the hook but it's been so quiet the last 3 weeks that I actually checked with my Google guy to see if he had done something to the advertising. It turns out that nobody is even clicking on the ads right now. People are just too worried about getting by to bother with any extra expenses.

I did some research, and divorce rates typically increase after a crisis like this (as do marriages--evidently people get more emotional in both directions). When the dust settles, I do expect to get a lot of calls from people who have been forced to stay home together.

However, if everyone is out of work for a long time, I don't know how they will be able to afford a divorce even if they want it. This could end up impacting my practice for a long time.
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Old 03-26-2020, 12:26 PM   #11
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I did some research, and divorce rates typically increase after a crisis like this (as do marriages--evidently people get more emotional in both directions). When the dust settles, I do expect to get a lot of calls from people who have been forced to stay home together.
Is that true when the crisis might still kill your spouse? Leaving you not to have to deal with divorce and a bonus possible fat life insurance check?

Screw divorce, Id be praying for the Rona to take her.
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Old 03-26-2020, 02:01 PM   #12
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Is that true when the crisis might still kill your spouse? Leaving you not to have to deal with divorce and a bonus possible fat life insurance check?

Screw divorce, Id be praying for the Rona to take her.

I think, from what I read, that the stress of the crisis tends to make people more likely to make major life choices (such as marriage and divorce).


I'm sure there are people out there hoping the virus will make the choice for them (as terrible as that sounds). But with a fatality rate of 2-4%, that will still leave a lot of people married and needing divorces.


I'm just not sure how they are going to pay for the divorce when the economy is a train wreck. Assuming that we get through this crisis in 6 months or so (hoping for the best here), I don't expect my practice to recover for probably a year at the earliest.

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Old 03-26-2020, 02:52 PM   #13
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I think, from what I read, that the stress of the crisis tends to make people more likely to make major life choices (such as marriage and divorce).


I'm sure there are people out there hoping the virus will make the choice for them (as terrible as that sounds). But with a fatality rate of 2-4%, that will still leave a lot of people married and needing divorces.


I'm just not sure how they are going to pay for the divorce when the economy is a train wreck. Assuming that we get through this crisis in 6 months or so (hoping for the best here), I don't expect my practice to recover for probably a year at the earliest.
I was a bit tongue in cheek there. Aren't money problems/stress at the root of a lot of divorces? Maybe you'll see a surge once things smooth out a bit. Good luck
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:28 PM   #14
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I’ve paid rent through May already. Just staying on top of bills for now. I cut directv after ten years. Refinanced credit cards are now paid off and paying a lower interest rate to pay off the loan in 2 years
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Old 03-26-2020, 02:45 PM   #15
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Just called my local banks and both said the loans will be ran direct through the government.
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