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Old 05-01-2024, 08:26 AM   #2
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Lol this is the funniest part of being a draft-head... most of these guys don't make it and we hype them up before they ever play a down of NFL practice, but it's fun.
Yeah, and so much depends on where they go.

I said earlier this year that every opinion I give about a player's possible success is based on if they were drafted by the Chiefs and coached by this staff.

A lot of times we are probably right about players, but they go somewhere with a scheme that doesn't match, or coaches that don't use their strengths, or they end up somewhere that has really talented players above them on the depth chart.
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Old 05-01-2024, 09:02 AM   #3
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Yeah, and so much depends on where they go.

I said earlier this year that every opinion I give about a player's possible success is based on if they were drafted by the Chiefs and coached by this staff.

A lot of times we are probably right about players, but they go somewhere with a scheme that doesn't match, or coaches that don't use their strengths, or they end up somewhere that has really talented players above them on the depth chart.
It's a little like the 'star' system for recruits.

A recruit may not look any better in October than he did in September but in the interim he's gotten offers from Alabama and Georgia. So ratings services will look at his offer sheet and bump him from a 3-star guy to a 4-star guy (or 4 to 5) based on his offer sheet.

At this point if the Chiefs pick someone, you largely assume they have something figured out there and that maybe this guy who you had as the 45th best prospect really should've been a top 30 guy afterall.

It's good to have smart leadership, fellas.
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Old 05-01-2024, 10:46 AM   #4
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Bears, Chargers, Ravens, Chiefs, Cardinals, all had nice drafts.
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Old 05-09-2024, 09:35 AM   #5
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Definitely agree the Chiefs had a great draft and got good people at positions of need in rounds one and two and hopefully a replacement for Kelce in round three.

I think Philadelphia had as good a draft and maybe even better. they too filled their positions of need (DB) in rounds one and two and did so with players that are going to be more plug-in and play then what we got.

It’s hard to understand how Philadelphia completely fell apart last year and I expect there are some fundamental internal problems in the organization. fortunately We definitely don’t have that as an issue in KC. so maybe /hopefully their problems will continue despite WHAT was A great draft and great free agent moves (Barkley at RB and the return of Gardner-Johnson at safety.]

They did have some significant losses (Kelce retirement and Reddick to Jets), but I think their depth and planning ahead approach will successfully address those losses.

MAYBE WE WILL EVEN SEE THEM AGAIN IN THE SUPER BOWL NEXT YEAR INSTEAD OF SAN FRANCISCO
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Old 05-26-2024, 12:01 PM   #6
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After some time to thinking on it I really do love what the Falcons did and don’t understand the hate there.

Great year to draft a QB for them. Kirk is an old bridge QB that we know won’t take them where they need to go in the end, so why not? QB is everything. A WR or pass rusher can’t make the difference that a QB would.

Next years QB class sucks. If the Falcons want to trade Kirk they easily could and some team would gladly help pay for part of that contract. Raiders would gladly do that with their shit QB room, if Levis bombs the Titans would gladly do it. Hell the Giants would gladly do it bc Jones and Lock aren’t good. They can get a 2nd or 3rd back as well.

I was a fan of Ruke and Dorlus. Lord knows they needed DL help.

Again Odunze or a tackle or pass rusher won’t make a big enough difference like Penix could. Settling with Kirk winning the division as your SB is weak shit
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Old 05-26-2024, 01:41 PM   #7
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After some time to thinking on it I really do love what the Falcons did and don’t understand the hate there.

Great year to draft a QB for them. Kirk is an old bridge QB that we know won’t take them where they need to go in the end, so why not? QB is everything. A WR or pass rusher can’t make the difference that a QB would.

Next years QB class sucks. If the Falcons want to trade Kirk they easily could and some team would gladly help pay for part of that contract. Raiders would gladly do that with their shit QB room, if Levis bombs the Titans would gladly do it. Hell the Giants would gladly do it bc Jones and Lock aren’t good. They can get a 2nd or 3rd back as well.

I was a fan of Ruke and Dorlus. Lord knows they needed DL help.

Again Odunze or a tackle or pass rusher won’t make a big enough difference like Penix could. Settling with Kirk winning the division as your SB is weak shit
I didn't understand the Falcons draft hate either. Drafting a QB you REALLY like when you're in a position to actually do so and letting them learn and develop for a year or two behind a really good QB has generally paid dividends for teams like Green Bay, the Chiefs, and Niners (Steve Young/Montana) who all had aging great QB's. Cousins will get them in or close to the playoffs, so they aren't going to be that high up again for awhile. It was a smart move if they feel that strongly about Penix.
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Old 05-29-2024, 01:54 PM   #8
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If there's any franchise that can see value in drafting a QB when you have a good-not-great one already on your roster and signed for 2+ years, it's ours.

I don't disagree with the idea of the Falcons investing in a QB. I think it's a tough when the QB is as OLD as Penix, though.

He's going to be what, 26/27 before he's a starter? And most of the way through his rookie deal?

It's cool if he's Aaron Rodgers, but there's little to suggest he is.
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Old 05-29-2024, 04:28 PM   #9
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If there's any franchise that can see value in drafting a QB when you have a good-not-great one already on your roster and signed for 2+ years, it's ours.

I don't disagree with the idea of the Falcons investing in a QB. I think it's a tough when the QB is as OLD as Penix, though.

He's going to be what, 26/27 before he's a starter? And most of the way through his rookie deal?

It's cool if he's Aaron Rodgers, but there's little to suggest he is.
That's my problem as well. Makes much more sense if you're taking a young guy like McCarthy.
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Old 05-29-2024, 06:07 PM   #10
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If there's any franchise that can see value in drafting a QB when you have a good-not-great one already on your roster and signed for 2+ years, it's ours.

I don't disagree with the idea of the Falcons investing in a QB. I think it's a tough when the QB is as OLD as Penix, though.

He's going to be what, 26/27 before he's a starter? And most of the way through his rookie deal?

It's cool if he's Aaron Rodgers, but there's little to suggest he is.
25 IMO. I think the Kirk Cousins signing was made out of desperation but then they fell in love with Penix. I think Kirk is traded next year.

I think this was the year to try bc they have their pieces on offense. I just don’t see the value with sticking with Kirk. He’s old, damaged and limited. Sure you win the division but then what? Is that your only goal?
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Old 05-29-2024, 06:12 PM   #11
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Also sticking with the Jags pick here. Still love their draft. We all loved BTJ. Myles Cole and Jordan Jefferson were nice. I was a Jarrian Jones truther pre-draft.

Maason Smith showed some Chris Jones type flashes at times IMO. He was obviously high on our board.

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