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Old 10-25-2020, 08:55 PM   #2
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Bill still won nearly twice as many games as he lost when he had to start someone else besides Brady.

Brady would've been a "one-and-done" QB if he'd gone to a bottom tier organization.
You mean the Cassel year? That team went 16-0 the year prior. That team wasn't a bunch of scrubs.
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Old 10-25-2020, 09:10 PM   #3
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You mean the Cassel year? That team went 16-0 the year prior. That team wasn't a bunch of scrubs.
Cassel. Who was actually a better athlete than Brady.

Jimmy G. started two games as a Pat and won both.

Think there was at least one more guy that started a game or two and had an even record or a winning one.

Look, I'm not saying that Belichick would've led the Pats to all those conference championships or SB titles, but there's really no denying that they have had a pretty good system over there and you could insert almost any decent QB in there and win some games.

Yeah, they've almost always had a good to great defense, and a set of decent weapons' but every team would need some combination of the above to win. Football is the ultimate team sport, so that makes sense.

Brady is a product of the system he was in. He didn't create it. He didn't coach those defenses to be what they were. Heck, for the first couple years of his career as a Pat he was basically only a game-manager. He certainly wasn't anything special. Brady grew into becoming a great QB.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:10 PM   #4
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You mean the Cassel year? That team went 16-0 the year prior. That team wasn't a bunch of scrubs.
Yeah, that hardly proves anything. Haley won 10 games with Cassel. That NE team was just loaded.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:29 PM   #5
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No head coach can make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Brady vs BB is a player vs HC, which is an unfair comparison. Coaches don't play the game, they coach so of course the players playing will have a bigger impact..

Brady is in a great situation, BB not so much. Pats don't have the talent to be good this season, the Bucs do. Don't forget Pats had a couple players opt out for COVID and lost a QB who has been with them for over a decade.

BB is still the GOAT HC as far as I am concerned. They may have a bad season but it doesn't mean BB is a bad coach. BB the GM on the other hand is another story...
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:29 PM   #6
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Pats had too many opt outs and Cam sucks. Brady is on a team so talented he can't lose much. Only injuries will derail them.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:30 PM   #7
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Oh this is funny as f***.

Bucs were just LOADED! That’s it. That must be it. Suuuure.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:33 PM   #8
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Oh this is funny as f***.

Bucs were just LOADED! That’s it. That must be it. Suuuure.
I mean. It's a hell of a lot better situation town in Tampa. Can you seriously not handle any other opinion outside your own?
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:34 PM   #9
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I mean. It's a hell of a lot better situation town in Tampa. Can you seriously not handle any other opinion outside your own?
You must be new here.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:37 PM   #10
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I mean. It's a hell of a lot better situation town in Tampa. Can you seriously not handle any other opinion outside your own?

Look at the results buddy. This ain’t “opinion” as of today.
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Old 10-25-2020, 09:15 PM   #11
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Bucs were just LOADED! That’s it. That must be it. Suuuure.
They were a talented team in need of a consistent QB. It's a very similar situation to the one Manning found in Denver.

Also, helps when you drop a HOF QB on any roster.
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Old 02-08-2021, 09:23 AM   #12
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They were a talented team in need of a consistent QB. It's a very similar situation to the one Manning found in Denver.

Also, helps when you drop a HOF QB on any roster.
This was always true.

I don't know how anyone could have watched this postseason and come to the conclusion that Brady carried this team. They barely beat a bad Washington team with a QB starting off the street, offense didn't lead a TD drive of longer than 40 yards against the Saints (bolstered by 4 turnovers caused by the defense), and Brady threw 3 second-half INTs against the Packers while the Bucs D held them to only 6 points off said turnovers.

Then add in last night where their defense held our offense to just 9 points total. Brady literally made one good throw all night and that was the TD to Gronk. He faced the least amount of pressure a QB has ever faced in the Super Bowl. He was not impressive, but their defense absolutely was.
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Old 02-08-2021, 11:08 AM   #13
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This was always true.

I don't know how anyone could have watched this postseason and come to the conclusion that Brady carried this team. They barely beat a bad Washington team with a QB starting off the street, offense didn't lead a TD drive of longer than 40 yards against the Saints (bolstered by 4 turnovers caused by the defense), and Brady threw 3 second-half INTs against the Packers while the Bucs D held them to only 6 points off said turnovers.

Then add in last night where their defense held our offense to just 9 points total. Brady literally made one good throw all night and that was the TD to Gronk. He faced the least amount of pressure a QB has ever faced in the Super Bowl. He was not impressive, but their defense absolutely was.
Brady was absolutely horrific against the Packers and it got completely ignored because his defense stepped up repeatedly to stop Aaron Rodgers after his brutal picks.

He also game managed his way to another title last night on the backs of that same elite defense and a 1st half refereeing debacle the likes of which he had never even seen in his career.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:32 PM   #14
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They’re both overrated cheating frauds but I hate Brady more so I went with Belichick.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:33 PM   #15
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Bill the GM is probably the bigger issue here than Bill the coach or Brady the QB. If you gave Belichick the Bucs LB group they'd be looking like the 86 Giants out there right now.
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