Most Realistic Chiefs' Mock

[TambaBerry]

Yep the way Clemson uses their CBs always worries me when it comes to playing man to man.

[Kiimo]

Just presenting an alternative since we all keep falling in love with players.

I did it with Christian Watson earlier.

This is a high floor low ceiling draft anyway and most guys have question marks

[BryanBusby]

Wouldn't **** with Stingley. Not a fan of someone who quits because they got burnt.

[kccrow]

Here's my stab at what Veach will actually do:

1-6. ER Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon (KC trades 1-29, 1-30, 3-94 to CAR for 1-6)
Here's what we know, when it comes to fixing an issue Veach is incredibly aggressive. So with that, I fully believe that Veach acquired draft capital in order to go get an upper-tier pass rusher in this draft. From a pure pass rush standpoint, there's probably not a better player in this draft than Thibodeaux. If his demeanor truly has rubbed some teams the wrong way, he's going to be a value outside of the top 3. Carolina is a perfect trade partner in the top 10 as they lack picks and they are outside the division and conference. I think Veach can work both Carolina's need for picks and Thibodeaux's potential devaluation to make a move and secure a top edge.

2-50. CB Tariq Woolen, UTSA
After losing Ward, CB is a legitimately enormous need for KC that's being extremely underplayed. We've caught wind of the Chiefs looking at a ton of late-round corners but not many early on. I believe, though, KC is taking one much earlier than expected and they did have a pre-draft virtual with Woolen. Woolen has only played CB for two years but he's got special tools. Being 6'4" with a 42" vertical and 4.26 speed is special, but he's also shown extremely smooth hips and especially for his size. Getting a big, long corner again is probably on the docket and Woolen could be an absolute stud after a couple of seasons. This is Veach's 2022 big-dick swing at traits like he's made in the past with guys like Willie Gay and Mecole Hardman.

2-62. WR John Metchie III, Alabama
Metchie is every bit as good as, if not better than, Jahan Dotson who is regarded as a late 1st rounder. Metchie tore his ACL later in the season so may not make much of an impact in 2022 but KC really doesn't need him to be a playmaker right now. Metchie can learn the playbook and come back ready to secure a starting role in 2023.

3-103. WR Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
Ezukanma is a very intriguing WR and the Chiefs didn't have him in for a visit for nothing. He's got some major upside that was held back by subpar QB play during his career. He's got a lot of JuJu in him and could easily be a late-day-two selection that far exceeds his stock.

4-121. RB Rachaad White, Arizona State
The Chiefs have no doubt at least been looking at RBs and the one thing that pops for me looking at the core stable they have is that they lost the speed and pass-catching element they had with Jerick McKinnon. I think their visit with White was very telling in that they want more from the position long-term. The signing of Jones to a 1-year deal means they aren't satisfied with just CEH either (at least in my mind).

4-135. OT Kellen Diesch, Arizona State
The Chiefs were looking at Diesch early on and his ability in the passing game is no doubt intriguing. I don't love his shorter arms at tackle but it hasn't seemed to be a problem yet. I think that Veach is going to tend to go back towards a bit more athleticism on the perimeter OLine.

6-200. TE Lucas Krull, Pittsburgh (KC trades 7-233, 7-243 to NE for 6-200)
The Chiefs have seemed intent on looking at adding another TE and Krull definitely fits as a nice project to work with. He's solid as a receiver and has time to develop behind Kelce. I think his passion is a definite plus, and so is the fact he's a local kid.

7-251. CB Samuel Womack, Toledo
Womack is a guy that you look at primarily as a nickel corner but the Chiefs are lacking in that area a bit with the free-agent losses of Tyrann Mathieu and Mike Hughes. Womack isn't likely physical enough as a tackler to make a move to free safety but he is disruptive as a corner with a tone of PBUs and he has the agility to play in the slot.

7-259. S Nasir Greer, Wake Forest
Providing his medicals were in line during his top-30 visit, I can see Greer as the type of player Veach would take a swing at late. Greer looked like an elite player in the making early in his career before a torn ACL took him out in 2020 which was followed by a very down and inconsistent year in 2021 where he didn't look 100% back. The Chiefs don't have a standout need at S this season.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Here's my stab at what Veach will actually do:

1-6. ER Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon (KC trades 1-29, 1-30, 3-94 to CAR for 1-6)
Here's what we know, when it comes to fixing an issue Veach is incredibly aggressive. So with that, I fully believe that Veach acquired draft capital in order to go get an upper-tier pass rusher in this draft. From a pure pass rush standpoint, there's probably not a better player in this draft than Thibodeaux. If his demeanor truly has rubbed some teams the wrong way, he's going to be a value outside of the top 3. Carolina is a perfect trade partner in the top 10 as they lack picks and they are outside the division and conference. I think Veach can work both Carolina's need for picks and Thibodeaux's potential devaluation to make a move and secure a top edge.

2-50. CB Tariq Woolen, UTSA
After losing Ward, CB is a legitimately enormous need for KC that's being extremely underplayed. We've caught wind of the Chiefs looking at a ton of late-round corners but not many early on. I believe, though, KC is taking one much earlier than expected and they did have a pre-draft virtual with Woolen. Woolen has only played CB for two years but he's got special tools. Being 6'4" with a 42" vertical and 4.26 speed is special, but he's also shown extremely smooth hips and especially for his size. Getting a big, long corner again is probably on the docket and Woolen could be an absolute stud after a couple of seasons. This is Veach's 2022 big-dick swing at traits like he's made in the past with guys like Willie Gay and Mecole Hardman.

2-62. WR John Metchie III, Alabama
Metchie is every bit as good as, if not better than, Jahan Dotson who is regarded as a late 1st rounder. Metchie tore his ACL later in the season so may not make much of an impact in 2022 but KC really doesn't need him to be a playmaker right now. Metchie can learn the playbook and come back ready to secure a starting role in 2023.

3-103. WR Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
Ezukanma is a very intriguing WR and the Chiefs didn't have him in for a visit for nothing. He's got some major upside that was held back by subpar QB play during his career. He's got a lot of JuJu in him and could easily be a late-day-two selection that far exceeds his stock.

4-121. RB Rachaad White, Arizona State
The Chiefs have no doubt at least been looking at RBs and the one thing that pops for me looking at the core stable they have is that they lost the speed and pass-catching element they had with Jerick McKinnon. I think their visit with White was very telling in that they want more from the position long-term. The signing of Jones to a 1-year deal means they aren't satisfied with just CEH either (at least in my mind).

4-135. OT Kellen Diesch, Arizona State
The Chiefs were looking at Diesch early on and his ability in the passing game is no doubt intriguing. I don't love his shorter arms at tackle but it hasn't seemed to be a problem yet. I think that Veach is going to tend to go back towards a bit more athleticism on the perimeter OLine.

6-200. TE Lucas Krull, Pittsburgh (KC trades 7-233, 7-243 to NE for 6-200)
The Chiefs have seemed intent on looking at adding another TE and Krull definitely fits as a nice project to work with. He's solid as a receiver and has time to develop behind Kelce. I think his passion is a definite plus, and so is the fact he's a local kid.

7-251. CB Samuel Womack, Toledo
Womack is a guy that you look at primarily as a nickel corner but the Chiefs are lacking in that area a bit with the free-agent losses of Tyrann Mathieu and Mike Hughes. Womack isn't likely physical enough as a tackler to make a move to free safety but he is disruptive as a corner with a tone of PBUs and he has the agility to play in the slot.

7-259. S Nasir Greer, Wake Forest
Providing his medicals were in line during his top-30 visit, I can see Greer as the type of player Veach would take a swing at late. Greer looked like an elite player in the making early in his career before a torn ACL took him out in 2020 which was followed by a very down and inconsistent year in 2021 where he didn't look 100% back. The Chiefs don't have a standout need at S this season.

Would love to see this ultra-aggressive move from Veach! Love the Metchie and Diesch picks.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Here's my stab at what Veach will actually do:

1-6. ER Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon (KC trades 1-29, 1-30, 3-94 to CAR for 1-6)
Here's what we know, when it comes to fixing an issue Veach is incredibly aggressive. So with that, I fully believe that Veach acquired draft capital in order to go get an upper-tier pass rusher in this draft. From a pure pass rush standpoint, there's probably not a better player in this draft than Thibodeaux. If his demeanor truly has rubbed some teams the wrong way, he's going to be a value outside of the top 3. Carolina is a perfect trade partner in the top 10 as they lack picks and they are outside the division and conference. I think Veach can work both Carolina's need for picks and Thibodeaux's potential devaluation to make a move and secure a top edge.

2-50. CB Tariq Woolen, UTSA
After losing Ward, CB is a legitimately enormous need for KC that's being extremely underplayed. We've caught wind of the Chiefs looking at a ton of late-round corners but not many early on. I believe, though, KC is taking one much earlier than expected and they did have a pre-draft virtual with Woolen. Woolen has only played CB for two years but he's got special tools. Being 6'4" with a 42" vertical and 4.26 speed is special, but he's also shown extremely smooth hips and especially for his size. Getting a big, long corner again is probably on the docket and Woolen could be an absolute stud after a couple of seasons. This is Veach's 2022 big-dick swing at traits like he's made in the past with guys like Willie Gay and Mecole Hardman.

2-62. WR John Metchie III, Alabama
Metchie is every bit as good as, if not better than, Jahan Dotson who is regarded as a late 1st rounder. Metchie tore his ACL later in the season so may not make much of an impact in 2022 but KC really doesn't need him to be a playmaker right now. Metchie can learn the playbook and come back ready to secure a starting role in 2023.

3-103. WR Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
Ezukanma is a very intriguing WR and the Chiefs didn't have him in for a visit for nothing. He's got some major upside that was held back by subpar QB play during his career. He's got a lot of JuJu in him and could easily be a late-day-two selection that far exceeds his stock.

4-121. RB Rachaad White, Arizona State
The Chiefs have no doubt at least been looking at RBs and the one thing that pops for me looking at the core stable they have is that they lost the speed and pass-catching element they had with Jerick McKinnon. I think their visit with White was very telling in that they want more from the position long-term. The signing of Jones to a 1-year deal means they aren't satisfied with just CEH either (at least in my mind).

4-135. OT Kellen Diesch, Arizona State
The Chiefs were looking at Diesch early on and his ability in the passing game is no doubt intriguing. I don't love his shorter arms at tackle but it hasn't seemed to be a problem yet. I think that Veach is going to tend to go back towards a bit more athleticism on the perimeter OLine.

6-200. TE Lucas Krull, Pittsburgh (KC trades 7-233, 7-243 to NE for 6-200)
The Chiefs have seemed intent on looking at adding another TE and Krull definitely fits as a nice project to work with. He's solid as a receiver and has time to develop behind Kelce. I think his passion is a definite plus, and so is the fact he's a local kid.

7-251. CB Samuel Womack, Toledo
Womack is a guy that you look at primarily as a nickel corner but the Chiefs are lacking in that area a bit with the free-agent losses of Tyrann Mathieu and Mike Hughes. Womack isn't likely physical enough as a tackler to make a move to free safety but he is disruptive as a corner with a tone of PBUs and he has the agility to play in the slot.

7-259. S Nasir Greer, Wake Forest
Providing his medicals were in line during his top-30 visit, I can see Greer as the type of player Veach would take a swing at late. Greer looked like an elite player in the making early in his career before a torn ACL took him out in 2020 which was followed by a very down and inconsistent year in 2021 where he didn't look 100% back. The Chiefs don't have a standout need at S this season.

Other than a corner in the 2nd, which would be VERY out of character for Veach, I like this draft just fine although I would probably swap out a couple of names-like Pickens or Pierce for Metchie. Veach has just shown that he doesn't value the CB position (especially boundary corner) all that much and would prefer to bargain shop vets and mid to low round picks.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Other than a corner in the 2nd, which would be VERY out of character for Veach, I like this draft just fine although I would probably swap out a couple of names-like Pickens or Pierce for Metchie. Veach has just shown that he doesn't value the CB position (especially boundary corner) all that much and would prefer to bargain shop vets and mid to low round picks.

What exactly has been "in character" for Veach so far this offseason? He's basically gone completely opposite of what he's done since he took the job. I could see him drafting a CB in the first two rounds if there is one that he coveted.

Plus I forget which year it was but he wanted to go CB in the 2nd round but they all got taken before he could trade up for one.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

What exactly has been "in character" for Veach so far this offseason? He's basically gone completely opposite of what he's done since he took the job. I could see him drafting a CB in the first two rounds if there is one that he coveted.

Plus I forget which year it was but he wanted to go CB in the 2nd round but they all got taken before he could trade up for one.

He was also still on the staff that took CB's in the 3rd round in 3 consecutive seasons and one in the 1st round. I don't know that it's not in play. He simply hasn't had to do it. He got tremendous value seasons out of the trade for Fuller and the FA acquisition of Breeland that allowed youth like Ward, Sneed, and Fenton to grow but now the cupboard is a bit barer. We'll have to see. I put nothing past Veach, honestly.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by kccrow

He was also still on the staff that took CB's in the 3rd round in 3 consecutive seasons and one in the 1st round. I don't know that it's not in play. He simply hasn't had to do it. He got tremendous value seasons out of the trade for Fuller and the FA acquisition of Breeland that allowed youth like Ward, Sneed, and Fenton to grow but now the cupboard is a bit barer. We'll have to see. I put nothing past Veach, honestly.

Also guys like Woolen do not grow on trees. He is a physical anomaly. If Veach thinks that he can do something with a guy like that, I have no problems with him being aggressive in securing him.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Here's my stab at what Veach will actually do:

1-6. ER Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon (KC trades 1-29, 1-30, 3-94 to CAR for 1-6)
Here's what we know, when it comes to fixing an issue Veach is incredibly aggressive. So with that, I fully believe that Veach acquired draft capital in order to go get an upper-tier pass rusher in this draft. From a pure pass rush standpoint, there's probably not a better player in this draft than Thibodeaux. If his demeanor truly has rubbed some teams the wrong way, he's going to be a value outside of the top 3. Carolina is a perfect trade partner in the top 10 as they lack picks and they are outside the division and conference. I think Veach can work both Carolina's need for picks and Thibodeaux's potential devaluation to make a move and secure a top edge.

I would never stop cumming

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Here's my stab at what Veach will actually do:

1-6. ER Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon (KC trades 1-29, 1-30, 3-94 to CAR for 1-6)
Here's what we know, when it comes to fixing an issue Veach is incredibly aggressive. So with that, I fully believe that Veach acquired draft capital in order to go get an upper-tier pass rusher in this draft. From a pure pass rush standpoint, there's probably not a better player in this draft than Thibodeaux. If his demeanor truly has rubbed some teams the wrong way, he's going to be a value outside of the top 3. Carolina is a perfect trade partner in the top 10 as they lack picks and they are outside the division and conference. I think Veach can work both Carolina's need for picks and Thibodeaux's potential devaluation to make a move and secure a top edge.

2-50. CB Tariq Woolen, UTSA
After losing Ward, CB is a legitimately enormous need for KC that's being extremely underplayed. We've caught wind of the Chiefs looking at a ton of late-round corners but not many early on. I believe, though, KC is taking one much earlier than expected and they did have a pre-draft virtual with Woolen. Woolen has only played CB for two years but he's got special tools. Being 6'4" with a 42" vertical and 4.26 speed is special, but he's also shown extremely smooth hips and especially for his size. Getting a big, long corner again is probably on the docket and Woolen could be an absolute stud after a couple of seasons. This is Veach's 2022 big-dick swing at traits like he's made in the past with guys like Willie Gay and Mecole Hardman.

2-62. WR John Metchie III, Alabama
Metchie is every bit as good as, if not better than, Jahan Dotson who is regarded as a late 1st rounder. Metchie tore his ACL later in the season so may not make much of an impact in 2022 but KC really doesn't need him to be a playmaker right now. Metchie can learn the playbook and come back ready to secure a starting role in 2023.

3-103. WR Erik Ezukanma, Texas Tech
Ezukanma is a very intriguing WR and the Chiefs didn't have him in for a visit for nothing. He's got some major upside that was held back by subpar QB play during his career. He's got a lot of JuJu in him and could easily be a late-day-two selection that far exceeds his stock.

4-121. RB Rachaad White, Arizona State
The Chiefs have no doubt at least been looking at RBs and the one thing that pops for me looking at the core stable they have is that they lost the speed and pass-catching element they had with Jerick McKinnon. I think their visit with White was very telling in that they want more from the position long-term. The signing of Jones to a 1-year deal means they aren't satisfied with just CEH either (at least in my mind).

4-135. OT Kellen Diesch, Arizona State
The Chiefs were looking at Diesch early on and his ability in the passing game is no doubt intriguing. I don't love his shorter arms at tackle but it hasn't seemed to be a problem yet. I think that Veach is going to tend to go back towards a bit more athleticism on the perimeter OLine.

6-200. TE Lucas Krull, Pittsburgh (KC trades 7-233, 7-243 to NE for 6-200)
The Chiefs have seemed intent on looking at adding another TE and Krull definitely fits as a nice project to work with. He's solid as a receiver and has time to develop behind Kelce. I think his passion is a definite plus, and so is the fact he's a local kid.

7-251. CB Samuel Womack, Toledo
Womack is a guy that you look at primarily as a nickel corner but the Chiefs are lacking in that area a bit with the free-agent losses of Tyrann Mathieu and Mike Hughes. Womack isn't likely physical enough as a tackler to make a move to free safety but he is disruptive as a corner with a tone of PBUs and he has the agility to play in the slot.

7-259. S Nasir Greer, Wake Forest
Providing his medicals were in line during his top-30 visit, I can see Greer as the type of player Veach would take a swing at late. Greer looked like an elite player in the making early in his career before a torn ACL took him out in 2020 which was followed by a very down and inconsistent year in 2021 where he didn't look 100% back. The Chiefs don't have a standout need at S this season.

I like the thought. I can see it.

I think I’m the only person who isn’t enamored with Woolen. I just don’t trust him that high. And I know he probably will go that high.

But he seems like the kind of raw, super fast athlete that Al Davis spent the end of his life failing with to me…

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I like the thought. I can see it.

I think I’m the only person who isn’t enamored with Woolen. I just don’t trust him that high. And I know he probably will go that high.

But he seems like the kind of raw, super fast athlete that Al Davis spent the end of his life failing with to me…

Nope, I agree on Woolen. Think it's a massive projection based on athleticism. Probably a high ceiling low floor, and I might not hate it. But I'm way lower on him than some of these boards.

[Couch-Potato]

#29. DE Mafe
#30. WR Dotson
#50. Someone falls here: Wyatt, Ojabo, Pickens, Dean, Elam, Pitre
#62. CB Woolen

[chiefforlife]

My very first Mock on a simulator...

If you havent tried it, its WAY harder than you think.

29 Mafe Edge - huge run on edge. Mafe/Ebiketie left
30 Watson WR - Again, huge run. Wanted Burks who went 28. Watson/Pickens

50 Winfrey DT - Beast, position of need. Winfrey/Mathis
62 Williams Edge - Need two, happy he was there. Williams/Paschal left

94 Chenal LB - To good to pass, LB now solid. Chenal/Anderson hard to decide
103 Dulcich TE - Stud, learn from best TE EVER, insurance for Kelce

121 Diesch OT - Starter day one at RT. Niang can be swing T
135 Philips WR - Underrated wr, security blanket, next Renfrow.

233 A. Anderson Edge - Way to good to pass up here. Risky but its 233.
243 Noah Ellis DL - Great value, also position of need. Immediate rotation
251 Kevin Harris RB - WOW, this has to be the guy Veach is thinking about.
259 Luke Wattenberg IOL - back up C/G He can play.

I felt really good about this but I completely whiffed on CB and S!! Every round I thought I could get one later but NO!
ITS WAY HARD! But SO FUN!