***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by TLO

It'd be easier to face the facts if we knew what we were truly looking at. At this point we have no idea, unfortunately.

There are lots of facts we know. People are being laid off. The economy is being shut down. We are going to add massively to our debt. We are going to destroy millions of people’s lives financially with many losing everything. I could keep going but I’ll stop. No one more, China is a huge POS and our media has refused to address it for a long time now.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by eDave

I will say again... When social media started, I knew we were ****ed as a society. More ****ed than when 24/7 news cycles started.

I hate knowing the deepist, most inner thoughts of humans. Maybe I've been naive.

AI sounds like a good alternative to me.

Not everybody needs a voice. Sad but true.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by TLO

I just wish we knew if/when we could expect the antiviral's.

I don't know. My mom's a retired physician, and still has friends around the country that still practice. She told me today while I was driving her around that at least one of these groups skipped animal testing and went straight to human trials, which will cut down on the timetable significantly. I can't remember the specifics because I was trying to decipher her directions at the time, but the bottom line is that it should be sooner rather than later.

For some reason my brain tells me that normally we would expect to hear something concrete in about 18-24 months, but if they're skipping to human trials, maybe half that? Maybe even less?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

This is becoming a generation changing event for those coming of age right now. They have never known any bad times. They were little kids in the 2008 crash. They are living life large. Partying at bars into the night, hanging out in groups. Filling up the sand on beaches. They have no idea the reality getting ready to smack them in the face.

The economy was on cruise control. Soon to be, in a matter of weeks, the worst since the great depression. Big layoffs are coming in all sectors of the economy. We are going to start seeing people dying in greater numbers in a week and the healthcare system max's out.
We are pass the "hope" of avoiding a society changing event. Treasury secretary says 20% unemployment soon.


We need to face facts and meet the challenge. We will eventually be okay. The economy and jobs will come back. Its just going to take awhile.

Just to be clear, he actually said "could rise to 20% without government intervention" and as a worst case scenario.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Not everybody needs a voice. Sad but true.

Reminds me of having dinner with scho.

He's looking at me thinking I'm a God damned Communist while I'm looking at him thinking he's a God damned trump voting Moron.

Miss him.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

So the hippies are scared. Shocking. It’s amazing how that state has went to shit over the last 30 years.

You don’t believe in vaccines. Your opinion on literally anything isn’t worth shit.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Just to be clear, he actually said "could rise to 20% without government intervention" and as a worst case scenario.

I was gonna say

[BigRedChief]

RARE SIGHT: Some of Southern California's major freeways were wide open during rush hour this afternoon as the novel coronavirus outbreak prompts many to stay home. pic.twitter.com/Uz3Ipw0Rpc

— ABC7 Eyewitness News (@ABC7) March 18, 2020

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Just to be clear, he actually said "could rise to 20% without government intervention" and as a worst case scenario.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I don't know. My mom's a retired physician, and still has friends around the country that still practice. She told me today while I was driving her around that at least one of these groups skipped animal testing and went straight to human trials, which will cut down on the timetable significantly. I can't remember the specifics because I was trying to decipher her directions at the time, but the bottom line is that it should be sooner rather than later.

For some reason my brain tells me that normally we would expect to hear something concrete in about 18-24 months, but if they're skipping to human trials, maybe half that? Maybe even less?

Yes but 2 of the main ones they are testing right now have been in existence for years. If they work, we're in a good spot.

If not... Well.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by eDave

Reminds me of having dinner with scho.

He's looking at me thinking I'm a God damned Communist while I'm looking at him thinking he's a God damned trump voting Moron.

Miss him.

Did he die? what did I miss?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by TLO

Yes but 2 of the main ones they are testing right now have been in existence for years. If they work, we're in a good spot.

If not... Well.

Oh yeah, she said something about that. the HIV one has of course been out there for decades, so if that one proves effective, it won't be long at all before they can declare it safe for full production/whatever. A couple months maybe?

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I'm still refreshing like crazy for the March 17th new cases. See if the dip is an anomaly or not. It's like waiting for the crop report in Trading Places.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/italy/

Italian numbers update around noon CST.

[Titty Meat]

Just hit the 6k mark 104 deaths nationally

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by TLO

Where are you seeing this?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronaviru...ry?id=69636160

"Shelter in place"