***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Titty Meat]

There seems to be a rather large disconnect between what a few folks in here are saying which seems rather optimistic compared to what's going on in the real world with closures, rising cases etc.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by BDj23

I plan on laying low for the next couple of weeks. I'll probably venture out to get food and booze, but other than that just relax at home.

Helps that I hate almost everyone in the general public.

Yeah, I've been actively training for social isolation my entire life. This is my time to shine.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Come join the fun. I'll give you free moneys on any deposit.

Most of my gambling $ is in Betonline. Been trying to transfer it to the poker side but am having trouble doing that. I'll get it figured out soon and be back at the tables.

[eDave]

I'm off my quaranteen and made it out to the store yesterday. 10:30am.

Here's the bread isle:



Here's the milk section:



Here's the TP and related paper goods isle:



Most everything else was picked over good.

I actually NEED these things (sans toilet paper). Ended up finding milk and a semi stale loaf of bread at Circle K.

Felt like I was living in a television show.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by eDave

I'm off my quaranteen and made it out to the store yesterday. 10:30am.

Here's the bread isle:



Here's the milk section:



Here's the TP and related paper goods isle:



Most everything else was picked over good.

I actually NEED these things (sans toilet paper). Ended up finding milk and a semi stale loaf of bread at Circle K.

Felt like I was living in a television show.

Jesus Christ

[displacedinMN]

edave--Felt like I was living in a television show.

Wife said the same thing. Disaster movie.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by eDave

Most everything else was picked over good.

I actually NEED these things (sans toilet paper). Ended up finding milk and a semi stale loaf of bread at Circle K.

Felt like I was living in a television show.

I'm seeing some Swiffer-type mop things.

Grab a couple and use them to wash your ass. Rinse it out when you're done and repeat.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

There seems to be a rather large disconnect between what a few folks in here are saying which seems rather optimistic compared to what's going on in the real world with closures, rising cases etc.

Myself and several other posters some who were chased off warned posters in this thread a while ago to take this seriously. They didn't want to hear it.

Now look....

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Most of my gambling $ is in Betonline. Been trying to transfer it to the poker side but am having trouble doing that. I'll get it figured out soon and be back at the tables.

You just have to go into the site and transfer it to the sportsbook I think. You can transfer it back and forth as much as you want.

Sportsbetting.ag is the other "skin" for Bet Online. Meaning if you don't have an account there, you could still sign up there under me and get a little bit of extra dough if you sign up under me. Ok done spamming. PM me if you have any interest or questions.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by eDave

I'm off my quaranteen and made it out to the store yesterday. 10:30am.

Here's the bread isle:



Here's the milk section:



Here's the TP and related paper goods isle:



Most everything else was picked over good.

I actually NEED these things (sans toilet paper). Ended up finding milk and a semi stale loaf of bread at Circle K.

Felt like I was living in a television show.

Other than toilet paper , the panic buying hasn’t hit us up here too much.

[Monticore]

Our hospital is still doing outpatient exams but they are being screened with questioning and and turned away if they answer yes to any of the questions, cough,fever, recent out of country travel. Staff is being screened as well our radiologist was told to go home because he just got back from a trip.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Good. That's exactly what we should do. That's the 'surge capacity' I've been harping on.

You, as a trained respiratory technician (of some sort) and my wife as a person w/ over a decade in nursing and advanced degrees and a bunch of fun initials after her name are not considered as part of our capacity right now.

But man, you are. So is she. Rosie the Riveter didn't know shit about building liberty ships until commerce raiders started sinking 'em. Suddenly she learned real fast.

We'll do the same, but planning is critical. Planning. Not wild stabs in the dark before we get a real understanding of what will be needed and where, but being prepared.

Rosie the riverter screwed up a welding seam
on a planes wing, they just redid it or fixed the weld. I screw up, someone dies. You want your grandma’s life in the hands of someone who hasnt ran a vent in 22 years?

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You just have to go into the site and transfer it to the sportsbook I think. You can transfer it back and forth as much as you want.

Sportsbetting.ag is the other "skin" for Bet Online. Meaning if you don't have an account there, you could still sign up there under me and get a little bit of extra dough if you sign up under me. Ok done spamming. PM me if you have any interest or questions.

The problem is on my end. Google crashed on me and I haven't spent much time trying to fix it. Whatever caused it seems connected to my login on the poker side.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Rosie the riverter screwed up a welding seam
on a planes wing, they just redid it or fixed the weld. I screw up, someone dies. You want your grandma’s life in the hands of someone who hasnt ran a vent in 22 years?

It's not ideal, but it's better than putting her life in my hands, no?

And if you do 5 correctly and 1 incorrectly, that's still 5 more people outside the stated capacity. Moreover, if the truly dire situations were put in the hands of the most capable and experienced and you're put in a situation where you're doing 6 of the less critical, less time sensitive with one of those experience people over your shoulder to catch the 1 you didn't do right, we've still upped our ability to address the situation significantly.

That's triage in a nutshell, is it not?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Suspending all commerce except for food/health care isn’t a bad idea if you’re determined to mostly suspend all commerce piecemeal. If Trump came out and shut down everything for a month we’d all have a date circled on our calendar and wouldn’t much care about anything since we wouldn’t have any bills until next month.

Reminds me of the Wall Street Do-Over in Red Storm Rising.

Are you going to forgive bills and credit card payments? Or provide backpay for people?

What good does suspending my bills do if my pay is being suspended as well? People will owe their suspended bills. They will not get back pay.