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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-19-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

You and I both know the "attractiveness" of Mizzou lies in its potential TV markets. Don't get me wrong, you're not awful, but your athletic reputation is not why the SEC is being coerced into accepting you.

so you're saying the SEC doesn't date her because she's pretty, but because she does anal?

eazyb81 · 10-19-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Holy shit, you're trying way too hard. The fans have no say in this.

Wait, so the fans want to keep it at the Sprint Center? Is that what you are saying?

HolyHandgernade · 10-19-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

I guess we have different definitions of "competing".

40 wins in 4 years sounds like competing to me, but maybe I'm off my rocker.

No doubt we'll have to adjust many of our approaches, both on and off the field - but I don't think that's a reason not to go.

If you don't think that's a product of playing in the Big XII North for many years, then you keep sucking that pacifier. Anyone knows a dynamic playmaker at QB can lift any team, and you had a good run of them. Its fool's gold to believe that type of player will always be there for you.

tomahawk kid · 10-19-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie

Stable? It's just begun. Being the low man on the totem pole is not stability.

The SEC conference needs 9 votes to accept MU. They started with 7 and twisted arms to get it to 8. Still, a no-go.

'Bama was one of the holdouts, but are "all-in" as long as Missouri is in the East (which I think will happen).

Last I had heard, we had at least 9 votes - but maybe you have better inside sources than I do. I suppose one of us will "right" in the next couple of weeks.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 10-19-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Wait, so the fans want to keep it at the Sprint Center? Is that what you are saying?

for my own selfish reasons I like the Sprint Center, it's close, and all.

But I'd be totally fine with it in OKC as well. But I don't expect it will stay there, no.

eazyb81 · 10-19-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Much like you are currently competing with KU & ISU for worst in the Big 12. Congrats man!

3 games seems like a large enough sample size. You got us!

Mr. Plow · 10-19-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

40 wins in 4 years sounds like competing to me, but maybe I'm off my rocker.

Pure domination.

tomahawk kid · 10-19-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

If you don't think that's a product of playing in the Big XII North for many years, then you keep sucking that pacifier. Anyone knows a dynamic playmaker at QB can lift any team, and you had a good run of them. Its fool's gold to believe that type of player will always be there for you.

You're losing me - so now we're competing, but only because we were in the North?

I thought we didn't "compete" at all?

|Zach| · 10-19-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

You and I both know the "attractiveness" of Mizzou lies in its potential TV markets. Don't get me wrong, you're not awful, but your athletic reputation is not why the SEC is being coerced into accepting you.

Oh hey! Welcome back.

HolyHandgernade · 10-19-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

so you're saying the SEC doesn't date her because she's pretty, but because she does anal?

I'm saying the SEC's is making them marry her because she has "huge tracts of 'TV Markets'".

|Zach| · 10-19-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

You're losing me - so now we're competing, but only because we were in the North?

I thought we didn't "compete" at all?

Get used to this moving of the goal posts. It is a long and winding road of rationalizations.

Stewie · 10-19-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

'Bama was one of the holdouts, but are "all-in" as long as Missouri is in the East (which I think will happen).

Last I had heard, we had at least 9 votes - but maybe you have better inside sources than I do. I suppose one of us will "right" in the next couple of weeks.

MU in the east is a joke, but when you're the cowering puppy I guess it's as good as anything.

**DeezNutz** · 10-19-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

You and I both know the "attractiveness" of Mizzou lies in its potential TV markets. Don't get me wrong, you're not awful, but your athletic reputation is not why the SEC is being coerced into accepting you.

It's a money deal from both sides. Mizzou brings two major television markets, solid athletic programs, with exceptional facilities, and a strong academic reputation.

In many ways, A&M and Mizzou are comparable entities.

Mr. Plow · 10-19-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

3 games seems like a large enough sample size. You got us!

Hey, I can only go with the #'s I see in front of me. I'm sure things will turn around though and you'll dominate your way to middle of the pack by end of year.

HolyHandgernade · 10-19-2011, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid

You're losing me - so now we're competing, but only because we were in the North?

I thought we didn't "compete" at all?

How did you do against the South those years? The Big XII South that is, you know, OU and Texas?

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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