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12-01-2021, 07:53 AM | #56986 |
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12-01-2021, 08:01 AM | #56987 | |
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12-01-2021, 08:20 AM | #56988 | |
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If you look at Alpha, Beta, Delta...the data shows the CFR dropping with the variants becoming a bit more transmissable. Scientists consider this possible because that’s how the four endemic coronaviruses, called OC43, 229E, NL63 and HKU1, behave. At least three of these viruses have probably been circulating in human populations for hundreds of years; two of them are responsible for roughly 15% of respiratory infections. Using data from previous studies, Lavine and her colleagues developed a model that shows how most children first come down with these viruses before the age of 6 and develop immunity to them1. That defence wanes pretty quickly so it is not sufficient to block reinfection entirely, but it seems to protect adults from getting sick. Jesse Bloom, an evolutionary biologist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, thinks the coronavirus might follow a similar path. “I do think SARS-CoV-2 will become a less serious problem and something like flu,” he says. Shaman and others say the virus could also settle into a seasonal pattern of annual winter outbreaks similar to flu. |
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12-01-2021, 08:30 AM | #56989 |
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Someone down voted scientists who believe the virus will become weaker?!
Looks like someone doesn't want this to end. . |
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12-01-2021, 08:44 AM | #56990 |
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12-01-2021, 08:49 AM | #56991 |
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12-01-2021, 08:53 AM | #56992 |
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12-01-2021, 08:54 AM | #56993 | |
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https://www.livescience.com/51682-va...r-viruses.html Leaky vaccines are here defined as vaccines which reduce symptoms but don't stop infection. Care to explain why you believe the Covid-19 shots don't fit this definition?! Go ahead, this will be fun. |
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12-01-2021, 08:55 AM | #56994 | |
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It's just not cut and dry that they "evolve" into lesser pathogenicity. Unlike bacteria, viruses can't genetically change unless they have human cells to replicate it. Especially in a disease like Covid, the patient mortality happens a while post viral peak or infection so it's not really being pressured to become less virulent at this point. Atleast it would seem not to be. Unless we got lucky. |
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12-01-2021, 09:00 AM | #56995 | |
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1.History. We have a history of novel, semi-novel viruses getting introduced and becoming less virulent in humans over time. 2.Data. The data we have on case fatality rate shows the variants CFR is dropping...significantly from Alpha. 3. Evolutionary Theory. If a virus is too deadly and kills its host it won't be able to transmit and replicate to other as much. This is what we see with viruses like Ebola. Deadly but too deadly to cause mass-infection. Can you name examples of viruses over time strengthening in nature and becoming more virulent? |
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12-01-2021, 09:08 AM | #56996 | |
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12-01-2021, 09:10 AM | #56997 | |
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Again, you're simplifying this too much. It isn't necessarily the way it works. |
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You're misinterpreting that study. Actually, you're simply repeating what Joe Rogan misinterpreted about that study. Here's a response about that from the author of the study himself, Andrew Read: Quote:
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12-01-2021, 09:12 AM | #56999 |
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12-01-2021, 09:13 AM | #57000 | |
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I would change the subject too if I just stuck my foot in my mouth like you did though. |
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