***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by stevieray

You hang out with "those people", do you?

Why are you opposed to getting vaccinated?

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by kstater

I hang out with all types of people

That's nice, doesn't answer the question.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by stevieray

That's nice, doesn't answer the question.

Ironic that someone who diligently avoids answering questions calls someone else out for doing the same thing.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by TLO

Why are you opposed to getting vaccinated?

No offense, but I'm not sure if that's any of your business.

People could be skeptical to the efficiency of masks, but wear them where mandated.

People could question the validity/safety of a vaccine, but take it anyway.

Putting people in boxes and dividing them over a virus is extremely dangerous, especially in a time where labels and adjectives take precedent when describing someone.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Ironic that someone who diligently avoids answering questions calls someone else out for doing the same thing.

The timing of this post is brilliant.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The timing of this post is brilliant.

rahrahrah!

[kstater]

Originally Posted by stevieray

That's nice, doesn't answer the question.

It does though

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Putting people in boxes and dividing them

What are you doing in this thread exactly?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Stewie

South Florida doctors stage walkout amid surge in unvaccinated COVID-19 patients

Many Florida hospitals are nearing capacity in their intensive care units as the state contends with a surge of COVID-19 cases

By Thomas Barrabi

A group of 75 South Florida doctors staged a symbolic walkout on Monday to highlight a surge in unvaccinated COVID-19 patients hospitalized in the state, according to a report.

The doctors who participated in the demonstration in Palm Beach Gardens cited fatigue and frustration with misinformation that has contributed to vaccine hesitancy in the state. Some of the doctors briefly walked out of their shifts to participate in the protest.

"It’s incredibly frustrating because we know the vaccines are safe and effective and it’s people that go out and talk against them that really go against physicians and medicine and science. It’s not the message we want to get across to people," JT Snarkski, one of the doctors who participated in the walkout, told MSNBC. "Vaccines are safe and we need to get our communities vaccinated."


Many Florida hospitals are nearing capacity in their intensive care units as the state contends with a surge of COVID-19 cases due to the delta variant. As of this week, about 86% of the state’s hospital beds were full, prompting alarm from public health officials.

Well that was dumb

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

What are you doing in this thread exactly?

It’s pretty much what he does in every thread.

[suzzer99]

Since anecdotes seem to matter (for some people, the only thing, if anything), last week a guy I've played golf with and know professionally died of COVID. 52 years old, not a golden god, but not noticeably out of shape. No underlying conditions. Unvaxxed, and caught it from an employee of his who was positive and didn't tell anybody while still coming to work. Left two kids. He's the second death of someone I know personally. The other was 65, but by all accounts healthy.

My aunt is a nurse and is about to get fired for refusing to get the vaccine. Her facebook these days is almost entirely her posting stupid "personal choice" memes. In the middle of it all she had the gall to post a GoFundMe for two kids who are members of her church; BOTH parents (in their 40s) died of COVID. But "keep politics out of this," as her post states.....

From another forum. The people who purvey this anti-vaxx nonsense have blood on their hands.

[jdubya]

Meanwhile 100’s of thousands are pouring over the southern border each month with reportedly a 40% positive Covid rate. The next variant has already began in South America so how long will it take to reach the US? Meanwhile neighbors and friends scream at each other about vax vs unvaxxed and often blaming political ideologies but the real “superspreader” event is happening daily pouring over the border. Now let’s talk about who has blood on their hands. Do you like apples? How about them apples?

[Fish]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Meanwhile 100’s of thousands are pouring over the southern border each month

100's of thousands? LOL... no there's not....

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Meanwhile 100’s of thousands are pouring over the southern border each month with reportedly a 40% positive Covid rate. The next variant has already began in South America so how long will it take to reach the US? Meanwhile neighbors and friends scream at each other about vax vs unvaxxed and often blaming political ideologies but the real “superspreader” event is happening daily pouring over the border. Now let’s talk about who has blood on their hands. Do you like apples? How about them apples?

Imagine thinking that you blew anyone’s mind so much with this Facebook trash that you dropped a “how you like them apples” lol

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Meanwhile 100’s of thousands are pouring over the southern border each month with reportedly a 40% positive Covid rate. The next variant has already began in South America so how long will it take to reach the US? Meanwhile neighbors and friends scream at each other about vax vs unvaxxed and often blaming political ideologies but the real “superspreader” event is happening daily pouring over the border. Now let’s talk about who has blood on their hands. Do you like apples? How about them apples?

Take your political bullshit to DC... no one here cared the first time and pretty much everything you said is hearsay from one of the dumbest politicians in the US, which has been repeatedly refuted over the past couple of weeks.