***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

JFC Suzzer, do you have some kind of fearporn newsfeed that just funnels every fearporn tweet to you?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

He has like 20 million followers. Almost all of them dudes who don't trust official sources and "do their own research". He's insanely influential. He's like the male Oprah.

I actually like the guy as a comedian and mostly as a person. NewsRadio is my favorite TV show of all time - so I'll always have a soft spot for any cast member. I just wish he'd take is position a little more seriously.

If he was just some random jackass with 200k listeners it would be fine to host every crackpot conspiracy out there. As it is, people are literally dying because Rogan is telling them they don't need the vaccine.

No they're not. They're not getting vaccines because they don't want to get vaccines. Most of them seem to have some degree of oppositional defiant disorder. It's not because Joe Rogan told them to. They just latch on because they found a well known person that agrees with them.

[suzzer99]

There's a reason why people with tons of followers are called "influencers".

Obviously no one thinks they're being influenced.

[mlyonsd]

Can someone show the testing and vaccination numbers for the hundreds of thousands of illegals crossing the border? Those numbers are definitely relevant if we're trying to stop the spread of the virus.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by loochy

JFC Suzzer, do you have some kind of fearporn newsfeed that just funnels every fearporn tweet to you?

Just trying to combat the steady stream of disinformation that's been flowing into this thread lately. If we're really acting like whether or not to get a vaccine is up for debate - I'm going to debate it. The second the disinfo spreaders stop I'll stop.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Can someone show the testing and vaccination numbers for the hundreds of thousands of illegals crossing the border? Those numbers are definitely relevant if we're trying to stop the spread of the virus.

It might be if we didn't have taxi companies refusing to take masked or vaccinated people right here in Missouri - birthplace of the delta variant in the US. As it is those numbers are tiny compared the unvaccinated Americans proudly spreading covid.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

It might be if we didn't have taxi companies refusing to take masked or vaccinated people right here in Missouri - birthplace of the delta variant in the US. As it is those numbers are tiny compared the unvaccinated Americans proudly spreading covid.

Yes it is relevant.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

It might be if we didn't have taxi companies refusing to take masked or vaccinated people right here in Missouri - birthplace of the delta variant in the US. As it is those numbers are tiny compared the unvaccinated Americans proudly spreading covid.

https://parade.com/1244220/kimberlyz...-spread-covid/

If I’m immunized against COVID, can I transmit the virus to other people?

Details surrounding the transmission of the Delta variant are still emerging, and it should be noted there have been conflicting reports. However, recent data suggests that immunized individuals can carry and spread COVID-19.

You're saving the world one ChiefsPlanet post at a time.

[Bearcat]

Just saying this as someone who (god only knows why) has been reading this thread more lately, and hasn't exactly been rising above it..... but, we could certainly do without just about any post that's made for the sole purpose of some fake "being right".

No one is changing their mind at this point without their personal situation changing.... parading tweets about dead people for the sake of "being right" is distasteful at best, just like apparently we're supposed to shame a doctor for providing "fear porn" when that doctor has seen some shit in the past year.

So, maybe a little less "owning" the other side by some brainwashed metric of being right... that's literally what DC is for (again, not as a mod who's looking to boot people, just a personal rant).

And like I said, I'm to blame as well in moments of weakness for cheap entertainment.

I'll ban myself out.

[Bearcat]

Parade.com.

(sorry)

(and of course people with the vaccine can catch Covid, it's not bubble)

(oh god)

(data actually suggests viral loads are far lower than the unvaccinated, which is why hospitalizations and deaths are so much lower, which is the entire point)


(****)

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Parade.com.

(sorry)

(and of course people with the vaccine can catch Covid, it's not bubble)

(oh god)

(data actually suggests viral loads are far lower than the unvaccinated, which is why hospitalizations and deaths are so much lower, which is the entire point)


(****)

Mad Magazine said the stuff, bruh!

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

There's a reason why people with tons of followers are called "influencers".

Obviously no one thinks they're being influenced.

false narrative.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Americans proudly spreading covid.

false narrative

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Just saying this as someone who (god only knows why) has been reading this thread more lately, and hasn't exactly been rising above it..... but, we could certainly do without just about any post that's made for the sole purpose of some fake "being right".

No one is changing their mind at this point without their personal situation changing.... parading tweets about dead people for the sake of "being right" is distasteful at best, just like apparently we're supposed to shame a doctor for providing "fear porn" when that doctor has seen some shit in the past year.

So, maybe a little less "owning" the other side by some brainwashed metric of being right... that's literally what DC is for (again, not as a mod who's looking to boot people, just a personal rant).

And like I said, I'm to blame as well in moments of weakness for cheap entertainment.

I'll ban myself out.

Does clown porn count as fear porn?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Does clown porn count as fear porn?