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Old 10-08-2021, 03:30 PM  
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Jon Gruden made an oopsie [and has resigned]
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:19 AM   #526
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From a pure football standpoint, as a Chiefs fan, this is bad news.

I liked Gruden exactly where he was. Unfireable for the rest of his 10 year contract, slowly collapsing his rebuilt roster like an utter dingus.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:20 AM   #527
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So much for privacy and the first amendment! Someone had it out for him to go digging thru emails a decade ago. It’s a beautiful world we live in! For you, for you, for you…….not me-Devolution is real! I think Tom Cable should be the HC. He should have never been replaced
1A doesn't apply.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:22 AM   #528
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Help me out here, what authority does the NFL have over coaches? They don't work for the NFL they work for the team. They aren't part of the NFPA so they aren't collectively bargained etc...

I think the idea the NFL can fire a coach is completely wrong, the team has to do it.
didn’t Jon Gruden talk **** about Robert Krafts good buddy Roger Goodall in one of those emails?
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:26 AM   #529
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My greatest fear at this point is the Raiders hiring Eric B.
There’s no way in hell they will given the backlash regarding Gruden and Bienemy’s past.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:26 AM   #530
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Help me out here, what authority does the NFL have over coaches? They don't work for the NFL they work for the team. They aren't part of the NFPA so they aren't collectively bargained etc...

I think the idea the NFL can fire a coach is completely wrong, the team has to do it.
He didn't get fired. He resigned.

I don't know if he'd resign over this without sniff testing it first. If urban can survive, gruden could have easily survived this. Let's not rule out the idea that there could be something way worse under the surface.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:28 AM   #531
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He didn't get fired. He resigned.

I don't know if he'd resign over this without sniff testing it first. If urban can survive, gruden could have easily survived this. Let's not rule out the idea that there could be something way worse under the surface.
There’s also the fact that Gruden pretty much blatantly lied Friday and there’s likely much worse communications that we’ll never know about.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:30 AM   #532
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Mayock will likely be much better without Gruden around.
Based off of what?
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:30 AM   #533
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There’s also the fact that Gruden pretty much blatantly lied Friday and there’s likely much worse communications that we’ll never know about.
That's my sense. I just can't see him abruptly resigning like this if there wasn't something more. It sure seems like he's trying to get ahead of something and I'm not sure what was leaked is bad enough to create that kind of panic.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:32 AM   #534
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Based off of what?
No where to go but up.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:33 AM   #535
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No where to go but up.
Oh no, they have not hit rock bottom. lol
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:36 AM   #536
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Gruden might have wanted out anyway. He made a shitload of money, probably got a buyout on the remainder of his contract.


Time to kick up his feet and retire.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:39 AM   #537
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Oh no, they have not hit rock bottom. lol
Yeah, they pretty much bombed all their high draft picks since Gruden arrived.

Later round picks have been great.

Which ones do you think Gruden was forcing?
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:44 AM   #538
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Help me out here, what authority does the NFL have over coaches? They don't work for the NFL they work for the team. They aren't part of the NFPA so they aren't collectively bargained etc...

I think the idea the NFL can fire a coach is completely wrong, the team has to do it.
They do have authority over the coaches, remember Sean Payton being suspended for a year or fines to other coaches? If this happened when he was a coach of the Raiders they would have dumped him on their own.

And just remember people, if these emails would have come out when he was working at ESPN on MNF ESPN would have fired him immediately and he never would have been in the NFL to begin with.
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Yeah, they pretty much bombed all their high draft picks since Gruden arrived.

Later round picks have been great.

Which ones do you think Gruden was forcing?
I think the 1st round receiver and AB were forced by Gruden.

After that, I think a lot of it is on Mayock. He had some very questionable rankings when he was still on NFL Network, so it was definitely a question I raised when he was originally hired.

Would bet the shit like Ferrell #4 overall, Arnette in the first and probably Leatherwood were all Mayock ideas.
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