***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Doctors make horrible salesmen/women/persons and visa versa I would assume.

I love my medical clients but that is pretty accurate.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

“One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” --Dr. Brytney Cobia, Birmingham, AL. https://t.co/bjU1WA4vKN

— Dodes (@racheld) July 21, 2021

This quote make sense to anyone here?

“They cry. And they tell me they didn’t know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn’t get as sick. They thought it was ‘just the flu’. But they were wrong. And they wish they could go back. But they can’t. So they thank me and they go get the vaccine. And I go back to my office, write their death note, and say a small prayer that this loss will save more lives.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

This quote make sense to anyone here?

Emoting doesn't require sense.

[MahomesMagic]

‘Okay, I’m not going to feel bad for this person, because they make their own choice,’” Cobia


Sounds like getting this doctor is like ending up in the Stephen King novel "Misery"!

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by stevieray

great pic for the article...

Horrible propaganda.

It's disheartening to watch people push the vaccine under the pretense of the well being of others, only to watch them flip and jump at the chance to "blame" them with no compassion.

I hear a lot of loud people talking about their "choices" regarding the vaccine. Well, it's their choice to not take the vaccine and as a result they are to blame for dying from an almost completely preventable cause as a result of "choosing" to not get vaccinated. And they are also to blame for potentially infecting those around them in that process. My sympathy is best spent on people that make non-stupid choices. Nothing is completely absolute, but odds are a boatload better vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by O.city

Keep making vaccines available, but at some point you have to realize that we just are where we are.

Let people make their own decisions and go forward doing the best you can.

That's true, but the cowardice toward vaccines seems to be a new wrinkle.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

This quote make sense to anyone here?

"They" are the surviving family members.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

"They" are the surviving family members.

Yep, I think you’re right. That’s the only way it makes sense.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yep, I think you’re right. That’s the only way it makes sense.

Yeah, that's the way I read it. It's confusing because of "their death note," which kind of should be "the deceased's death note" or whatever. But the paragraph is referring to family members of the deceased as "they."

[carlos3652]

Ok for real this time, I think I found data on hospitalizations... with current data... I hope:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations

There is other, really cool data in there as well.

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/dhingra_sahib/st...955657732?s=21

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/dhingra_sahib/st...955657732?s=21

88% is pretty ****ing good.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Swanman

I hear a lot of loud people talking about their "choices" regarding the vaccine. Well, it's their choice to not take the vaccine and as a result they are to blame for dying from an almost completely preventable cause as a result of "choosing" to not get vaccinated.

Sure, people have to be responsible for the choices they make.

But it’s not like this is happening in a vacuum. The drumbeat of misinformation has real consequences. I disagree with putting all the blame on the individuals not getting vaccinated when you see the large scale media campaign that some of these individuals are exposed to.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

88% is pretty ****ing good.

Yeah I’d say that’s pretty good

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Sure, people have to be responsible for the choices they make.

But it’s not like this is happening in a vacuum. The drumbeat of misinformation has real consequences. I disagree with putting all the blame on the individuals not getting vaccinated when you see the large scale media campaign that some of these individuals are exposed to.

I swear if Joe Rogan would just go all in on the vaccine, 20 million dudebros would sign up for the jab tomorrow. He has to be the most influential voice among men in America.