***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Locally, we're about 2x worse off than we were last 4th of July July in terms of cases and hospitalizations.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by loochy

This doesn't make sense. If they don't force us to get boosters, then how can they ensure that we are sterile, magnetic, and mind controlled?

Maybe the 5G is coming along faster than expected.

[suzzer99]

⚠️It's beginning. Patients in southwest #Missouri are starting to be transferred to other hospitals, hundreds of miles away, as hospitals become filled with COVID patients. Only 38% of #Missouri is fully vaccinated & #DeltaVariant infections are surging. https://t.co/eBqwaD4qOx pic.twitter.com/iAKN8jLIe2

— Cleavon MD (@Cleavon_MD) June 30, 2021

"I don't understand why people won't get vaccinated," said McCoy, Mercy Springfield president. "I haven't heard a good reason yet."

Mercy is planning for the pandemic to continue, though McCoy said "we're certainly hopeful that we get a reprieve."

Cox's Edwards appealed to a skeptical public to consider whether to vaccinate not in terms of political discourse, social media misinformation or judgmental attitudes, but in terms of personal trust between an individual and their primary doctor.

He said he's in favor of "the idea of trying to remove all these competing, angry sort of sentiments and go to that one person that really cares about your health care, that doesn't judge you, is your doctor — not Dr. Fauci, you know, but your doctor. I think that's a message that we're learning in our community."

[TLO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

⚠️It's beginning. Patients in southwest #Missouri are starting to be transferred to other hospitals, hundreds of miles away, as hospitals become filled with COVID patients. Only 38% of #Missouri is fully vaccinated & #DeltaVariant infections are surging. https://t.co/eBqwaD4qOx pic.twitter.com/iAKN8jLIe2

— Cleavon MD (@Cleavon_MD) June 30, 2021

Unfortunately it's not just beginning, it has been happening for a while.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by wazu

I did see a quote from somebody referring to all three vaccines and saying they weren't anticipating a need for boosters, but I'm sure it's all subject to change.

The Pfizer and Moderna in particular have been doing pretty great against all the variants that have showed up so far. And that perhaps encouraging for whatever future variants that are likely but you just never know.

My understanding is they could create a booster pretty quickly and roll it into an annual flu shot if it was needed.

Hopefully it's not necessary. Or at least the rest of the world gets a chance at an original vaccine first.

[Rain Man]

Latest fully vaccinated rates by state. Sometimes I think Mississippi is actively trying to rank at the bottom of every single list in America. Seriously, Mississippi. It's free. What's wrong with you?

Vermont 65.60%
Massachusetts 61.60%
Maine 61.00%
Connecticut 60.70%
Rhode Island 58.90%
Maryland 56.00%
New Hampshire 55.60%
New Jersey 55.30%
New Mexico 54.50%
Washington 54.50%
New York 54.00%
Guam 53.50%
Washington, D.C. 53.20%
Oregon 52.70%
Colorado 51.80%
Minnesota 51.80%
Virginia 51.80%
Hawaii 51.70%
Delaware 50.00%
California 49.80%
Pennsylvania 49.60%
Wisconsin 49.50%
Iowa 48.00%
Nebraska 47.70%
Michigan 47.10%
Northern Mariana Islands 46.40%
Illinois 46.20%
Puerto Rico 46.20%
Florida 45.80%
South Dakota 45.40%
Ohio 44.70%
Kentucky 43.50%
Alaska 42.90%
Montana 42.90%
Kansas 41.90%
Nevada 41.90%
North Carolina 41.70%
Texas 41.20%
Arizona 40.20%
Indiana 39.90%
Missouri 39.10%
North Dakota 38.80%
South Carolina 38.70%
Oklahoma 38.40%
American Samoa 38.00%
Utah 37.30%
West Virginia 37.20%
Georgia 36.60%
Idaho 36.00%
Tennessee 35.40%
Louisiana 34.60%
Wyoming 34.40%
Arkansas 34.10%
U.S. Virgin Islands 32.80%
Alabama 32.50%
Mississippi 29.80%

[suzzer99]

Mississippi is a perfect storm of right-wing anti-vaxxers and poor black people who are suspicious of the vaccine. Not trying to get political - just stating facts.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Mississippi is a perfect storm of right-wing anti-vaxxers and poor black people who are suspicious of the vaccine. Not trying to get political - just stating facts.

Know how I know you are being political?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

⚠️It's beginning. Patients in southwest #Missouri are starting to be transferred to other hospitals, hundreds of miles away, as hospitals become filled with COVID patients. Only 38% of #Missouri is fully vaccinated & #DeltaVariant infections are surging. https://t.co/eBqwaD4qOx pic.twitter.com/iAKN8jLIe2

— Cleavon MD (@Cleavon_MD) June 30, 2021

Wow, this guy is still going?!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Wow, this guy is still going?!

They're overloaded here in Springfield at the hospitals. Have had a couple friends in our age range have to be hospitalized. Not ideal.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

They're overloaded here in Springfield at the hospitals. Have had a couple friends in our age range have to be hospitalized. Not ideal.

Well, good to see he still has time on his hands after his Florida conspiracy theories with fellow Covid scam artist Rebekah Geo fell apart.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Well, good to see he still has time on his hands after his Florida conspiracy theories with fellow Covid scam artist Rebekah Geo fell apart.

I have no clue who "he" is.

Just giving the info I have .

[MahomesMagic]

Interesting study on long-COVID in Swiss children (6-16) with mild infection, with a twist. The children were randomly selected.

Key result: "Seropositive children did NOT report long-COVID more frequently than seronegative children."
1/https://t.co/PegV2wIZ7x

— Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois) July 1, 2021

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Interesting study on long-COVID in Swiss children (6-16) with mild infection, with a twist. The children were randomly selected.

Key result: "Seropositive children did NOT report long-COVID more frequently than seronegative children."
1/https://t.co/PegV2wIZ7x

— Prof Francois Balloux (@BallouxFrancois) July 1, 2021

You like Balloux and his Covid thoughts?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

You like Balloux and his Covid thoughts?

He has pretty good insights. I'm sure there will be areas where we disagree.

I started following him when he outlined the two options we had early in 2020:

Mitigation or Suppression.