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Old 10-08-2021, 03:30 PM  
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Jon Gruden made an oopsie [and has resigned]


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Old 10-12-2021, 08:54 AM   #511
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That is because Dan Snyder (along with the Davis family, too, surprise surprise) is a member of a privileged tribe that also happens to control the media itself.
You are exactly what is wrong with society today.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:56 AM   #512
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There are no reports of any of these emails being sent when Gruden was an employee of the Raiders, the reports I have read specifically say "before he was hired by the Raiders." It is in fact possible for him to send an email dated 2018 before he was hired. Theres a reason why the league was handcuffed and needed the Raiders to get rid of him.
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In the additional emails covering a nearly seven-year period and ending in 2018, Gruden described NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in homophobic and derogatory terms and criticized the league for the way it handled player protests during the national anthem.
So you really think the emails stopped Jan 7th 2018? Maybe I guess.

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On Jan. 8, 2018, Gruden signed a 10-year, $100 million contract to return to the helm in Oakland. That's the richest contract for a head coach in NFL history, though Gruden is third in the NFL in AAV behind Patriots HC Bill Belichick ($12.5 million) and Seattle's Pete Carroll ($11 million).
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:57 AM   #513
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So you really think the emails stopped Jan 7th 2018? Maybe I guess.
I have no reason to believe thats not the case. Why else would the NFL need to blackmail the Raiders to fire someone for them?

Maybe Gruden, like the rest of us, understands you dont send these emails through your work email.
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Old 10-12-2021, 08:59 AM   #514
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I have no reason to believe thats not the case. Why else would the NFL need to blackmail the Raiders to fire someone for them?
There is no actual evidence this is what happened, you know that right?

The truth is the NFL didn't want to have to get involved, its way easier to let the team do it because if the NFL sets precedent here then it gets way more complicated long term.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:02 AM   #515
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The truth is the NFL didn't want to have to get involved, its way easier to let the team do it because if the NFL sets precedent here then it gets way more complicated long term.
What? If the NFL fires someone for what any employer would fire an employee over makes things complicated? Interesting.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:06 AM   #516
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What? If the NFL fires someone for what any employer would fire an employee over makes things complicated? Interesting.
Help me out here, what authority does the NFL have over coaches? They don't work for the NFL they work for the team. They aren't part of the NFPA so they aren't collectively bargained etc...

I think the idea the NFL can fire a coach is completely wrong, the team has to do it.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:07 AM   #517
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Help me out here, what authority does the NFL have over coaches? They don't work for the NFL they work for the team. They aren't part of the NFPA so they aren't collectively bargained etc...

I think the idea the NFL can fire a coach is completely wrong, the team has to do it.
They can absolutely suspend whoever the **** they want. Under certain circumstances they can even force an owner to sell his/her team.

They have already handed out 2 indefinite suspensions to coaches.

You need to rethink your thought.

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Old 10-12-2021, 09:10 AM   #518
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Ughhhh now the Raiders might become competent again
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:34 AM   #519
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Ughhhh now the Raiders might become competent again
Just remember that Mark Davis and mayock still run things.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:43 AM   #520
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As the creator of one of the most popular threads on here ranking and objectifying women, I'd say my non- PC credentials are solid. But this is a internet forum.

He's an idiot putting that shit in an email. Never in a million years would I think to send something like that through work email.

Ordering people under you to pose topless, write something racist or homophobic in an email. That's definitely a fireable offense for being so stupid.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:01 AM   #521
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:06 AM   #522
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Just remember that Mark Davis and mayock still run things.
Mayock may prove to be a better GM without Gruden around insisting on drafting Gruden Grinder types.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:13 AM   #523
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Just remember that Mark Davis and mayock still run things.
Mayock will likely be much better without Gruden around.
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:14 AM   #524
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Old 10-12-2021, 10:18 AM   #525
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You are exactly what is wrong with society today.
You don't think it's just a little strange that with all that's breaking on this story, Snyder is the back of the story? There's an owner privilege thing at play here where they operate above the rules after decades of bragging about "the shield" . Like when Jim irsay and Snyder slide under the radar while everyone underneath them gets thrown under a bus.

But it sure seems like the nfl is trying to sweep something under the rug here, doesn't it? I mean, after suspending players over tiny offenses, Snyder and Watson go completely untouched. Almost as if there's fear that acknowledging the problem will open up pandoras box.

Until Snyder gets implicated, there's something that feels really fishy in all of this.
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