***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[sedated]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I've been wondering if I have the "asymptomatic" version. I've been a bit congested, but it feels weird. Tiny little sore throat tings every now and then. Stomach a little gurgly. No fever though. I'm probably just being paranoid.

This could have been my exact quote back in October, especially the paranoid part. It was just under a week after spending some time with 2 friends.

The exact day I started to shake whatever "allergies" I was having, my friend texted me to tell me he was sick as hell. Both people I was with that night ended up testing positive, and the place we were at (on the patio) was shut down because of a Covid outbreak. I'm pretty sure I had it, and wasn't just being paranoid.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Katipan

A big part of the job is making sure the Broncos ingest so many edibles they don't really care that their team sucks.

But I want them to fully feel the pain and disappointment. From a personal values standpoint, I don't think I can do it. Maybe we can have me sweep up the stray leaves or something.

[O.city]

California is getting demolished with this thing. It's sad. I think the strict lockdowns kept it at bay but people just got worn out with them and now the wave is just crashing on them.

[Hawker007]

Originally Posted by O.city

California is getting demolished with this thing. It's sad. I think the strict lockdowns kept it at bay but people just got worn out with them and now the wave is just crashing on them.

There has to be a reason for this. My guess is that people in California possibly don't have as strong of immune systems due to their year round nice weather? Just a theory. But if people still aren't going out and about, it's pretty crazy that it is still hitting them this hard...

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Hawker007

There has to be a reason for this. My guess is that people in California possibly don't have as strong of immune systems due to their year round nice weather? Just a theory. But if people still aren't going out and about, it's pretty crazy that it is still hitting them this hard...

I think maybe it's more because there are a ton of people that live there. What is hospital capacity per capita like in the hard hit areas? Are their per capita infection and hospitalization rates really that much higher than elsewhere? (I'm too lazy to look)

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

But I want them to fully feel the pain and disappointment. From a personal values standpoint, I don't think I can do it. Maybe we can have me sweep up the stray leaves or something.

What if you're to blame for someone executing a run play and after 10 yards just laying the ball down and walking to the sideline? Untouched? 😁

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by loochy

I think maybe it's more because there are a ton of people that live there. What is hospital capacity per capita like in the hard hit areas? Are their per capita infection and hospitalization rates really that much higher than elsewhere? (I'm too lazy to look)

Take areas A and B where both have the identical populations, demographic distribution and public health metrics.

I would find it hard to believe that if A had higher true population density than B that they would have fewer total cases, hospitalizations and fatalities.

But good luck actually calculating that because true population density != population / area.

[eDave]

Dad tested positive today. He's 82 and poo pooing the whole thing. Doing yardwork now.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by eDave

Dad tested positive today. He's 82 and poo pooing the whole thing. Doing yardwork now.

Any symptoms?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Any symptoms?

No. Both he and mom have been pretty sick with the flu and now the test. He said the Dr. told him his bout with the flu was not Covid. He seemed confused with it all. I say he had it. Mom thinks they had it. I was with them over New Years and feel just fine.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by eDave

No. Both he and mom have been pretty sick with the flu and now the test. He said the Dr. told him his bout with the flu was not Covid. He seemed confused with it all. I say he had it. Mom thinks they had it. I was with them over New Years and feel just fine.

How does Doc know it was the flu?

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Hawker007

There has to be a reason for this. My guess is that people in California possibly don't have as strong of immune systems due to their year round nice weather? Just a theory. But if people still aren't going out and about, it's pretty crazy that it is still hitting them this hard...

L.A and San Diego, have year around nice weather, the rest of California dont.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by petegz28

How does Doc know it was the flu?

I don't ****ing know. Ask HIM.

[Deberg_1990]

Super spreader event in Tuscaloosa last night after Bama’s win.

Massive crowds pack streets in Tuscaloosa to celebrate Alabama Crimson Tide football team's college title win, despite local COVID-19 rules https://t.co/dZKAfACt8J pic.twitter.com/sgqNd4M7oN

— CBS News (@CBSNews) January 12, 2021

[Hawker007]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Super spreader event in Tuscaloosa last night after Bama’s win.

Massive crowds pack streets in Tuscaloosa to celebrate Alabama Crimson Tide football team's college title win, despite local COVID-19 rules https://t.co/dZKAfACt8J pic.twitter.com/sgqNd4M7oN

— CBS News (@CBSNews) January 12, 2021

Maybe. But when most of those people have already had it?