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Old 02-27-2024, 08:57 AM  
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Can somebody create a “2024 Free Agency” thread, please. Thanks in advance




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Old 03-20-2024, 12:14 PM   #4981
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What a great stat for finding good quarterbacks.
Only the beginning when it comes to Herbert.

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2. Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers

OFF 10 | DST 30 | Betrayal Index: -20

Only twice this season has an NFL team lost when producing at least 16 EPA on offense. The Chargers were that team both times, first against the Dolphins, then against the Lions. Historically bad DST games against Detroit, Miami and Kansas City stand out for the Chargers this season. That is why Herbert remains about where he was when this index debuted before last season, among the most betrayed quarterbacks in the league.
https://theathletic.com/5099190/2023...herbert-purdy/
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:15 PM   #4982
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His coaches were Anthony Lynn and Brandon Staley. Let’s see if that improves now that he has a real HC coaching him.

The work Harbaugh has done with QB’s is notable (CC Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick).
He also just lost his pair of high end WRs he's always had.
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:17 PM   #4983
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Yet he never won anything, Herbert has for the most part been a stat monster without winning anything.


He played for one of the most dysfunctional teams/organizations in NFL history. Might've had some little bit to do with it, Idk.
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:21 PM   #4984
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Only the beginning when it comes to Herbert.



https://theathletic.com/5099190/2023...herbert-purdy/
So you're just going to ignore the fact that the record you posted isn't even accurate?
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:25 PM   #4985
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He played for one of the most dysfunctional teams/organizations in NFL history. Might've had some little bit to do with it, Idk.
Nobody remembers the QB that had good stats and had a 30-29 record with Chargers and then everything changed when he went to a really good offensive coach.
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:29 PM   #4986
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bruh. All you have to do is say you got bamboozled by fake stats on Twitter. You don't have to double triple and quadruple downm
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:31 PM   #4987
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Nobody remembers the QB that had good stats and had a 30-29 record with Chargers and then everything changed when he went to a really good offensive coach.
Bro Jim Harbaugh is not the offensive mastermind Sean Payton was at that time, dude hired Greg ****ing Roman.
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:32 PM   #4988
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Yet he never won anything, Herbert has for the most part been a stat monster without winning anything.
Stats/records based on certain criteria aside, who honestly trusts Herbert to lead a game winning drive when it actually matters? Herbert gets more excuses made for why he can’t get it done than almost any other QB in the league.
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:34 PM   #4989
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bruh. All you have to do is say you got bamboozled by fake stats on Twitter. You don't have to double triple and quadruple downm
He refuses to address it
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:36 PM   #4990
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Herbert is a very talented QB and throws one of the best balls in the league. I dont think his talent should be questioned.

Saying he doesn't have the "clutch gene" is totally valid as he has yet to show that he can make plays necessary when the game is on the line.

I do think that with a better organization/coaching staff he could've had a better carrier up to this point.

And i don't agree that Harbaugh is gonna be the guy to turn it around for him/them.
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Old 03-20-2024, 12:38 PM   #4991
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He also just lost his pair of high end WRs he's always had.
And high scoring utility back.
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Herbert is a very talented QB and throws one of the best balls in the league. I dont think his talent should be questioned.

Saying he doesn't have the "clutch gene" is totally valid as he has yet to show that he can make plays necessary when the game is on the line.

I do think that with a better organization/coaching staff he could've had a better carrier up to this point.

And i don't agree that Harbaugh is gonna be the guy to turn it around for him/them.
Remember when he couldn’t hold a lead in the playoffs vs Jacksonville? Yup, the OC was blamed. They canned him and replaced him with Moore who allowed for Dak to put up monster numbers. Yet again Herbert couldn’t get it done. Curious how many more times Herbert will get a pass for not getting it done when it matters.
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Yea, losing Williams is one thing, they've always been much better when he's healthy.

Losing Allen too?

That's similar to Pat losing Kelce, with nobody like Rice or Hollywood already on the roster.

Sure, they could draft one if they stay at 5, but I don't think they do.
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How many times was he "betrayed" by turnovers and failed drives in inopportune times?
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Dude threw a mean YOLO ball to Williams for sure
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