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02-06-2021, 05:57 PM | #481 | |
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And why just allow them to be there anyway, when you can take steps to avoid that deficiency? Just...forget it. We'll see what happens. |
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Fisher tore a core muscle and instead of panicking, they just plugged in Cam Erving. Now, they're plugging in Rankin. Quote:
Schwartz was a nice free agent signing but again, as you can see, the Chiefs haven't drafted a starting Right Tackle since Reid arrived in 2013. Quote:
Can you say the same about Mahomes? Clearly not, as he's had 4 starting Right Tackles this season without missing a beat. Quote:
There's no reason to waste a Day 1 or Day 2 on a tackle if the Chiefs are good with their current tackles heading into the 2021 season. Yeah, I guess so. You're overreaching when no one knows whether or not Fisher and Schwartz will be available to start the 2021 season and if so, this entire conversation is for naught. |
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02-06-2021, 07:21 PM | #483 | |
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf...3011417S000314 I'm just providing these to give you some background that there is absolutely no guarantee Fisher returns at all, much less as the same caliber player. I'm not a doctor, so I go with the statistics from people that are. An Achilles is the most damning injury in sports today. Everyone heals differently from it given the lack of blood flow. |
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02-06-2021, 07:25 PM | #484 | |
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02-06-2021, 09:24 PM | #485 | |
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The second link stated that the recovery time is 9 months and that "more players are returning to play after injury and with better post-injury performance as compared to the previous two decades". So if that's the case, Fisher might be ready by Training Camp but I think it's probably safer to guess that he'll end up on the PUP and return somewhere around Week 9, as long as his recovery goes smoothly. I feel bad for the guy because he's missing out for a chance to win a second consecutive Super Bowl as an NFL starter. Hopefully, he'll come back and play in a third straight Super Bowl. |
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02-06-2021, 09:26 PM | #486 | |
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Almost. |
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02-06-2021, 09:43 PM | #487 | |
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Eichenberg projects as a RT. He's strong in the running game but struggles in space. Jalen Mayfield is always there at 64 and I see him available into the 4th at times. He's just not a top flight prospect. And Radunz is probably the best LT prospect of that bunch but even he isn't going to be able to start day 1. He's extremely raw. And these aren't my opinions, these are all opinions I've drawn from scouting reports. |
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02-06-2021, 09:44 PM | #488 |
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If I had access to it, I would. I passively watched that game because it was pretty well a throw-away game. I don't recall him being overly impressive, but hey I could be waaaaaay off base there.
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02-07-2021, 09:38 AM | #489 | |
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Kiper is mocking Mayfield at #14. He has him ranked as the #3 tackle, and says he'd rank him first but Mayfield has 15 starts. Now, it's Kiper, whatever, but he's NEVER there at #64 in any of the mocks I run or have seen. Late first-early second in every one. I say Little is a Niang situation meaning that he's a first round talent but drops due to an injury in mid 2019, and covid opted out in 2020. So not in a "we gotta wait a year for him to be healthy" , he's healthy NOW. Nobody's projecting him to play Guard-and Niang was only projected there because you had a healthy Fisher and Schwartz at the time. What they were saying was they thought Niang would be one of their best 5; but I think you know that and are just being difficult. NFL Draft Network's analysis of Liam Eichenberg says, "NFL ready starting Left Tackle who should find assimilating to the pro game fairly easy"-Crabbs So no, that doesn't sound like a RT or a G. I get that you REALLY don't want to take an OT early. Like you hate the idea. But you're showing a lot of confirmation bias here. You've even had to take OT in your own mock machine drafts because you've seen that's literally where the value wants to fall. |
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02-07-2021, 09:06 PM | #490 |
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Fix the offensive line? That would be ridicules! We lost because of our offensive line - let it go! God damn it!
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02-07-2021, 09:14 PM | #491 |
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I take no pleasure in being right.
But anyone who tells me that it's a bad use of resources, or to just keep adding playmakers can eat a dick. We lost this game because we could not function up front, and got dominated. Even Mahomes needs blocking. |
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02-07-2021, 09:15 PM | #492 | |
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Did I mention wrong? WRONG. |
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02-07-2021, 09:16 PM | #493 |
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This is the most embarrassing loss I have ever witnessed as a Chiefs fan. Even more that the kicker who shall be unnamed God damn this hurts. A 25 year old QB with no OL help vs. a ****ing 43 yr old QB who made us look like absolute fools! Yes, WE NEED AN OFFENSIVE LINE - no doubt about it - DRAFT OL FIRST, SECOND, THIRD! This is ridicules!
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02-07-2021, 11:02 PM | #494 | |
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I don't hate the idea at all. What I'm against is drafting a tackle in the first regardless of who is there. I want a guy that can actually start on the left side day 1 if I'm taking a tackle that high. If Fisher comes back, then move him to the right, that's fine too. There's very few guys that fit that bill, though. Mayfield's lack of experience is concerning. Eichenberg absolutely is better suited for right tackle. Little's history is a red flag. None of those guys jump off the page for any other reason than they are tackles, not because they are top flight prospects. Now, if we end up at #31 with one of those guys available and a bunch of other prospects with question marks at other positions, like DE, then you have to give the nod to need and take the tackle. But if a potential blue chipper drops out of the 20's into our lap and we take a 2nd tier tackle, that's just bad drafting. |
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02-07-2021, 11:03 PM | #495 | |
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I don't want to reach for an LT, but I sure as hell don't ever want to relive this Super Bowl. That was awful. |
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