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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**Saul Good** · 10-14-2011, 10:00 AM

This season has been nothing but road games against ranked teams. We've got a Sophomore at QB, and out LT got injured for the season in the spring. Its going to take some time for this team to put it together.

**Saul Good** · 10-14-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

The only way this makes sense is if there is no possibility that Mizzou goes west and the east AD's are saying "N. F. W. we're flying to Columbia", but I don't know what option B is, if distance was a deal-breaker.

If the alternative is WVU then maybe its a little closer for the east schools, but if you look at a map, it isn't much. This theory is stronger if the alternative was Clemson or FSU, but we've been beat over the head repeatedly for a while that the SEC won't expand in states where they are in, so you'd have to assume that assumption was false all along.

This entire travel argument is nonsensical for 2 reasons.

1. If travel for non-revenue sports is such a problem, you can have different divisions for those sports. I doubt Alabama is adamant that they keep their rivalry game with Tenn for women's field hockey.

2. In all liklehood, they will be expanding into 4 4-team pods in the next year or two, so these temporary divisions won't matter long-term.

Frazod · 10-14-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Somebody kill me now, I am feeling compassion for the Mizzou fans.

I checked the schedule, and don't see any more Western Illinois or Miami of Ohio's on there, but I would say they got a pretty good shot November 26th.

It will just be nice to be back in Columbia - seems like it's been forever since they've had a home game.

**Saul Good** · 10-14-2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Did MU sell out homecoming yet?

Yes. Thanks for asking. We didn't even have to send out letters begging people to come or anything.

**HemiEd** · 10-14-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

It will just be nice to be back in Columbia - seems like it's been forever since they've had a home game.

Looks like two in a row coming up, Iowa State and Oklahoma State. 1 and 1?

Frazod · 10-14-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yes. Thanks for asking. We didn't even have to send out letters begging people to come or anything.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Did MU sell out homecoming yet?

A week ago, with GA seats going for $65 (which is absurdly high for the privilege of genuinely sitting on a pile of rocks).

Literally every single hotel room in Columbia is booked and most of the ones in Jeff City and the surrounding areas are as well.

That dog won't hunt, dickhead.

Frazod · 10-14-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Looks like two in a row coming up, Iowa State and Oklahoma State. 1 and 1?

Who knows? Hopefully playing at home will improve whatever's ailing them. Sure would be nice for these vaunted linemen I keep hearing about to step up and actually do something.

**Saul Good** · 10-14-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

A week ago, with GA seats going for $65 (which is absurdly high for the privilege of genuinely sitting on a pile of rocks).

Literally every single hotel room in Columbia is booked and most of the ones in Jeff City and the surrounding areas are as well.

That dog won't hunt, dickhead.

That is to say nothing of the fact that there are 21,000 more seats at Faurot than there are in that multi-purpose facility they call a football stadium in Lawrence. It holds another 4-5000 when you include GA "seating" on the hill.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

That is to say nothing of the fact that there are 21,000 more seats at Faurot than there are in that multi-purpose facility they call a football stadium in Lawrence. It holds another 4-5000 when you include GA "seating" on the hill.

They're projecting around 71,200 to show up.

Yeah - no support for the program at all.

If the Beakers and the newly emboldened K-State fans want to take shots at the 'fake titan' label they claim is being applied to MU by its fans - fine, whatever. If they want to say the program is historically mediocre - fine. Those are legitimate points that can at least be discussed.

But seriously - the 'haha, MU can't even get fans to come out' argument is a non-starter. The atmosphere in Columbia for MU football is second to none, including Arrowhead.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-14-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

They're projecting around 71,200 to show up.

Yeah - no support for the program at all.

If the Beakers and the newly emboldened K-State fans want to take shots at the 'fake titan' label they claim is being applied to MU by its fans - fine, whatever. If they want to say the program is historically mediocre - fine. Those are legitimate points that can at least be discussed.

But seriously - the 'haha, MU can't even get fans to come out' argument is a non-starter. The atmosphere in Columbia for MU football is second to none, including Arrowhead.

I'm curious as to how many MU fans that have actively posted in this thread go to the games? Not trying to start an argument, I just wonder how many of them would consider themselves "regulars" to Faurot Field.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I'm curious as to how many MU fans that have actively posted in this thread go to the games? Not trying to start an argument, I just wonder how many of them would consider themselves "regulars" to Faurot Field.

I alternate seasons w/ MU and the Chiefs.

If I have Chiefs season tickets, I let my MU tickets go; I can't justify dedicating that much time and $$ to football games.

The real problem with MU football tickets is that the best way to get them is through the secondary market. If you want decent season tickets, you have 2 options: 1) Be a student (best option) or 2) Get in the alumni association and pay an assload of money to get into the pool for tickets.

Football tickets as an alumni will still run you over $100/seat by the time you factor in your alumni association dues. If you also go to basketball games, it's not a big deal (because the alumni dues can apply to both and thus lessen the sting), but if you're just going to football, the tickets become pretty expensive in a hurry.

So most people tend to buy them on the secondary market. I've also grabbed them in the parking lot on a handful of occasions because the tailgate scene in Columbia is pretty badass. A lot of folks will just hang in the parking lot if they don't have tickets. So you go, barbecue, drink, try to find tickets and if you can't you just keep drinking and barbecuing.

Pants · 10-14-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

They're projecting around 71,200 to show up.

Yeah - no support for the program at all.

If the Beakers and the newly emboldened K-State fans want to take shots at the 'fake titan' label they claim is being applied to MU by its fans - fine, whatever. If they want to say the program is historically mediocre - fine. Those are legitimate points that can at least be discussed.

But seriously - the 'haha, MU can't even get fans to come out' argument is a non-starter. The atmosphere in Columbia for MU football is second to none, including Arrowhead.

Yeah, I don't know where that stems from. I admit, last time I was there was in 2004, but the place was packed. I imagine it only got more popular since then.

I should add that it cleared early in the 4th qtr, but it was full when we got there.

**Saul Good** · 10-14-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I'm curious as to how many MU fans that have actively posted in this thread go to the games? Not trying to start an argument, I just wonder how many of them would consider themselves "regulars" to Faurot Field.

I'm certainly not a regular there, as its a 5+ hour round trip. I've actually seen them play multiple times in Lawrence and Manhattan.

Pants · 10-14-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm certainly not a regular there, as its a 5+ hour round trip. I've actually seen them play multiple times in Lawrence and Manhattan.

Pussy.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning	This season has been nothing but road games against ranked teams. We've got a Sophomore at QB, and out LT got injured for the season in the spring. Its going to take some time for this team to put it together.
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