***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by O.city

Pfizer COVID Vaccine. Amazing! The numbers speak for themselves. I’m sure Moderna has similar numbers. One of the greatest achievements in medicine of all time. I’m all in. @ASlavitt pic.twitter.com/WqAmjKjZV6

— Vincent Rajkumar (@VincentRK) December 8, 2020

That's great news. Our world will look much different by late spring/summer thanks to these scientists. Bravo.


To develop a vaccine that quickly and that effective has to be one of the greatest scientific achievements of all time.

[TLO]

So the folks at the FDA have had ample time to look over all this data already. I'll be interested to see what questions come up during the discussion on Thursday, but this baby looks pretty much good to go.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

It must be the mRNA approach that the companies took in development that accelerated the % of success. People and even scientists at the start were hoping for a 70% success rate. Science comes through again.

This approach has been in development for near 20 years. If it is this successful, essentially, we have just ended every viral pandemic in the future damn near immediately.

With this approach, you can insert said viral epitope and you're done.

It's really amazin.g

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

This approach has been in development for near 20 years. If it is this successful, essentially, we have just ended every viral pandemic in the future damn near immediately.

With this approach, you can insert said viral epitope and you're done.

It's really amazin.g

It's pretty incredible. Science is amazing.

[TLO]

There's a lot to digest: 53 pages for the FDA-supplied document and 90+ pages for the Pfizer-supplied document.

I'm not even going to pretend I understand all of it. I haven't read it super thoroughly. Mostly skimming.

Has anyone seen anything in there that sticks out as a major issue? I didn't see anything too alarming.

[dirk digler]

I am so ready for this vaccine. We had a companywide email sent out that they will be receiving the vaccine and they are going to start vaccinating our client facing staff once we receive it in the next week or so. No mention of a mandate other than implied lol.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am so ready for this vaccine. We had a companywide email sent out that they will be receiving the vaccine and they are going to start vaccinating our client facing staff once we receive it in the next week or so. No mention of a mandate other than implied lol.

Be nice if they could do what we all know they are going to do and approve this shit already. I mean is there really any kind of chance this doesn't get approved? I say this at literally the same time the people in the UK are getting this injected into their arms.

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Be nice if they could do what we all know they are going to do and approve this shit already. I mean is there really any kind of chance this doesn't get approved? I say this at literally the same time the people in the UK are getting this injected into their arms.

Vaccinations will likely start as early as this weekend. The biggest challenges will be production and distribution.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

Vaccinations will likely start as early as this weekend. The biggest challenges will be production and distribution.

I don't see how that's possible. I hope you're right but it took the UK a week between approval and the time needles started getting shoved into arms.

If we are prepared to start injecting 48 hours after approval then wtf are we waiting on? Sorry this just comes off as we are going through motions and not doing anything of value. Does anyone really think things are going to change between now and Thursday?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't see how that's possible. I hope you're right but it took the UK a week between approval and the time needles started getting shoved into arms.

If we are prepared to start injecting 48 hours after approval then wtf are we waiting on? Sorry this just comes off as we are going through motions and not doing anything of value. Does anyone really think things are going to change between now and Thursday?

The time it happens is the time it happens.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

The time it happens is the time it happens.

Man, you just go out onto limbs most would never dare to go out on...

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't see how that's possible. I hope you're right but it took the UK a week between approval and the time needles started getting shoved into arms.

If we are prepared to start injecting 48 hours after approval then wtf are we waiting on? Sorry this just comes off as we are going through motions and not doing anything of value. Does anyone really think things are going to change between now and Thursday?

No, I don't think anything will change. But there are processes for this just like there are processes for testing. There's still a chance (albeit small) that someone will notice something in the data that will alter our thinking, and it's important to give them the time to do the work.

But once the green light is given, it won't take much time at all for vaccines to start being given. This is one of the highest-priority logistical efforts we've ever seen, so it's gonna happen quickly.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

There's a lot to digest: 53 pages for the FDA-supplied document and 90+ pages for the Pfizer-supplied document.

I'm not even going to pretend I understand all of it. I haven't read it super thoroughly. Mostly skimming.

Has anyone seen anything in there that sticks out as a major issue? I didn't see anything too alarming.

I am mostly interested in the nanobot info, how many , what type, will they automatically sync up to the 5 g towers, if and what kind of powers to expect, let me know when you get to that part.

[petegz28]

AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine safe, 70% effective, study suggests
https://www.foxnews.com/health/astra...ffective-study

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine safe, 70% effective, study suggests
https://www.foxnews.com/health/astra...ffective-study

70% is disappointing compared to the others, but the cost and logistics will likely push it to be the most widely-distributed vaccine in the end. If we can get vaccination rates high, it'll still make a huge difference.