Tesla Cybertruck

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Have someone in my family who is always spending money in an effort to get people to look at/notice him. This is the ultimate "look at me!" purchase.

Well yeah, that's a known and most common reason why people buy expensive things. Did you think someone buys a Gucci bag for its functionality?

Outside of the Cybertruck though thats not the main reason people are buying Teslas anymore. They are very affordable for what you get.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois

IMO the only reason to get one of those ugly trucks is for the perceived status.

Status as a moron.

[Tribal Warfare]

Reminds me of the Van Damme's car in TimeCop

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Reminds me of the Van Damme's car in TimeCop

Or the death probe in 6 Million Dollar Man.

[BigBeauford]

I like a lot of what Elon Musk does, but this project seems like the result of not enough pushback from his team.

[notorious]

Still waiting on the tri-wheel version rocket-equipped version they teased in an ad from 1977.

[Tonka83]

I saw a car hauler carrying 7 or 8 of those driving down I-95 in Florida.
They looked absolutely horrendous in real life. The stainless looked like the surface of a well used teflon frying pan. Everything looked so out of proportion.

[BWillie]

So the NHTSA has ****ed Tesla. I was going to buy a new Tesla. Test drove all of them. Was confused why the Auto Pilot (Not Full Self Driving) sucked so bad. On new Teslas with the cabin camera it constantly nags and disengages autopilot. I started reading and found out two months ago NHTSA forced Tesla to make these changes and to monitor a drivers eyes with the cabin camera. So if you look away for 2 seconds to update the map, change the station or song, look out the window it auto nags. Its not even worth using anymore.

I know folks will claim this is great for safety but now there is no point to even use it. Id rather just drive normally and be distracted that way. Studies shown that prior older vehicles that didnt track the eyes and just relied on periodic pressure to the steering wheel for their autopilot nags was much safer than cars that just did not have auto pilot. Because in a real world environment people will always get tired, always get distracted etc. Distracted on autopilot > distracted not on it. Now people are just not going to use AP because its so annoying and actually makes a drive more stressful.

So I see no reason to get rid of my old Tesla where autopilot works fine and my face isn't tracked to nag me every time Im not a driving zombie. Im sure Elons persona did him no favors with the NHTSA.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by BWillie

So the NHTSA has ****ed Tesla. I was going to buy a new Tesla. Test drove all of them. Was confused why the Auto Pilot (Not Full Self Driving) sucked so bad. On new Teslas with the cabin camera it constantly nags and disengages autopilot. I started reading and found out two months ago NHTSA forced Tesla to make these changes and to monitor a drivers eyes with the cabin camera. So if you look away for 2 seconds to update the map, change the station or song, look out the window it auto nags. Its not even worth using anymore.

I know folks will claim this is great for safety but now there is no point to even use it. Id rather just drive normally and be distracted that way. Studies shown that prior older vehicles that didnt track the eyes and just relied on periodic pressure to the steering wheel for their autopilot nags was much safer than cars that just did not have auto pilot. Because in a real world environment people will always get tired, always get distracted etc. Distracted on autopilot > distracted not on it. Now people are just not going to use AP because its so annoying and actually makes a drive more stressful.

So I see no reason to get rid of my old Tesla where autopilot works fine and my face isn't tracked to nag me every time Im not a driving zombie. Im sure Elons persona did him no favors with the NHTSA.

Yeah, that ****ing sucks.

I want some sort of autopilot pretty bad. I drive a lot of miles on county roads that it obviously wouldn't work on, but there are a lot of highway miles that I would get a TON of value out of mentally checking out for a few minutes.

I've long said that Automated driving will outperform humans, but the liability will fall on the manufacturers, and that will be a problem.

Obviously I was wrong on it shitcanning the whole thing, but it looks like the lawyers are still fighting.

How long until someone Jailbreaks a Tesla? LOL

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah, that ****ing sucks.

I want some sort of autopilot pretty bad. I drive a lot of miles on county roads that it obviously wouldn't work on, but there are a lot of highway miles that I would get a TON of value out of mentally checking out for a few minutes.

I've long said that Automated driving will outperform humans, but the liability will fall on the manufacturers, and that will be a problem.

Obviously I was wrong on it shitcanning the whole thing, but it looks like the lawyers are still fighting.

How long until someone Jailbreaks a Tesla? LOL

Autodrive liability insurance is coming.

Can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet.

On a side note airplane autopilot has taken a massive amount of stress off my shoulders when I used to fly. “When stressed let the best pilot in the plane do the flying, and it isnt you”.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by notorious

Autodrive liability insurance is coming.

Can’t believe it hasn’t happened yet.

On a side note airplane autopilot has taken a massive amount of stress off my shoulders when I used to fly. “When stressed let the best pilot in the plane do the flying, and it isnt you”.

Yep. Even a million years ago when the first autosteer tractors hit the market, I was skeptical. Then I watched one. It will whip my ass all over the field. And I'm a good operator.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yep. Even a million years ago when the first autosteer tractors hit the market, I was skeptical. Then I watched one. It will whip my ass all over the field. And I'm a good operator.

If autotrack was going when I was in high school I’d probably be farming today.

I could handle 8-9 hour days of paying attention in the 4430 or 4850, but it broke me each summer.

I couldn’t imagine myself doing that for the next 60 years. It’d be a living hell.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah, that ****ing sucks.

I want some sort of autopilot pretty bad. I drive a lot of miles on county roads that it obviously wouldn't work on, but there are a lot of highway miles that I would get a TON of value out of mentally checking out for a few minutes.

I've long said that Automated driving will outperform humans, but the liability will fall on the manufacturers, and that will be a problem.

Obviously I was wrong on it shitcanning the whole thing, but it looks like the lawyers are still fighting.

How long until someone Jailbreaks a Tesla? LOL

My guess is it will take an act of congress to carve out an exception for automated cars.

If China/Japan/Europe have successfully* deployed driverless cars and the USA has not, maybe, and who knows with our politics...

There might be enough public push to have a liability law where driverless car wrecks are treated more like regular car wrecks with insurance as opposed to the type of liability Boeing would face for deploying a dangerous airplane.


*Successfully being defined as say something like 1/10 the accident and death rate of human drivers but not requiring a zero rate.

[Eureka]

Originally Posted by BWillie

So I see no reason to get rid of my old Tesla where autopilot works fine and my face isn't tracked to nag me every time Im not a driving zombie. Im sure Elons persona did him no favors with the NHTSA.

Someone else is paying the NHTSA some side money while they catch up on self driving technology.

This has always been a thing for business for as long as man has been in business.