***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[suzzer99]

I feel like it's pretty obvious at this point the virus loves cold weather.

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I feel like it's pretty obvious at this point the virus loves cold weather.

I feel like it's pretty obvious at this point that the virus loves your face.

[suzzer99]

Wow that was really clever!

Have you been a Lee's Scummiter all your life?

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Wow that was really clever!

Have you been a Lee's Scummiter all your life?

Negative. I'm originally from Spindependence.

[petegz28]

Day 9 since onset of symptoms: smell and taste had come back somewhat yesterday. This morning they were gone again for a while but are back to similar as yesterday which is not 100%. Swollen gland is still hanging around though not as bad. But today it is actually making my right ear feel like it's congested. Irritating but not painful.

No fevers in 2 days. Energy is starting to return.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Day 9 since onset of symptoms: smell and taste had come back somewhat yesterday. This morning they were gone again for a while but are back to similar as yesterday which is not 100%. Swollen gland is still hanging around though not as bad. But today it is actually making my right ear feel like it's congested. Irritating but not painful.

No fevers in 2 days. Energy is starting to return.

Good to hear!

Will you do a post-follow up with your doctor(s) to ensure nothing internally is affected?

[TLO]

Fauci

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Coach

Good to hear!

Will you do a post-follow up with your doctor(s) to ensure nothing internally is affected?

Most likely.

[petegz28]

Covid Log Update: Entry # I lost count......

It has been 9 days since the virus set in. What started off as the feeling of a cold or flu turned to a most fiendish enemy. It robbed me of my taste and smell. It put the fever on me. It made the right side of my face swell up in pain. I have been cast aside from my family in the name of safety. My Son is no longer attending his educational facility. My Wife is toughing this out taking care of both him and me. How she has not contracted the virus is simply astonishing.

Now I sit here, post-Halloween, feeling depressed that my Son was unable to participate in the annual tradition known as "trick or treating". I sit once more isolated from him and my Wife counting the minutes until my 10 day isolation period ends. Today breeds a bit of hope though. While my swollen gland still lingers and irritates, the fever has been vanquished for now. The sense of taste and smell has battled back though not at full strength. And the Kansas City Chiefs are about to face the New York Jets at the friendly confines of what is known as Arrowhead Stadium.

Yes, today breeds hope of not only continued recovery from the fiendish Corona Virus, the end of the 10 day isolation period but also the Kansas City Chiefs moving to 7-1 on the season.

I will report back post-football match with updates. This day will be a day of hope, not a day of defeat or despair. Tomorrow promises much. A new day. The last day of isolation. And a Monday that follows a victory by the Kansas City Chiefs!!!!

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

With viruses you’ve gotta get antivirals on board super early. That’s tough.

By the time you get sick enough to get treatment, it’s too far along to really do much for viral replication.

Just treat symptoms and hope body beats it

It’s why a vaccine that stops infection and transmission is always preferable

This, even something like a cold sore if you can start the anti virals before sore comes out you can prevent it from ever coming out but once it’s out they don’t do much . Not sure if you can develop tolerance to antivirals like tami flu where the more it is used it becomes less effective.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by phisherman

Negative. I'm originally from Spindependence.

Same here, then we moved to Blue Springs. Never liked The Scummit ever since.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Covid Log Update: Entry # I lost count......

It has been 9 days since the virus set in. What started off as the feeling of a cold or flu turned to a most fiendish enemy. It robbed me of my taste and smell. It put the fever on me. It made the right side of my face swell up in pain. I have been cast aside from my family in the name of safety. My Son is no longer attending his educational facility. My Wife is toughing this out taking care of both him and me. How she has not contracted the virus is simply astonishing.

Now I sit here, post-Halloween, feeling depressed that my Son was unable to participate in the annual tradition known as "trick or treating". I sit once more isolated from him and my Wife counting the minutes until my 10 day isolation period ends. Today breeds a bit of hope though. While my swollen gland still lingers and irritates, the fever has been vanquished for now. The sense of taste and smell has battled back though not at full strength. And the Kansas City Chiefs are about to face the New York Jets at the friendly confines of what is known as Arrowhead Stadium.

Yes, today breeds hope of not only continued recovery from the fiendish Corona Virus, the end of the 10 day isolation period but also the Kansas City Chiefs moving to 7-1 on the season.

I will report back post-football match with updates. This day will be a day of hope, not a day of defeat or despair. Tomorrow promises much. A new day. The last day of isolation. And a Monday that follows a victory by the Kansas City Chiefs!!!!

Post-match update: As expected, the Chiefs of Kansas City beat the Jets from New York soundly. Health status continues to improve though moderately. I indulged in a fastfood style cheeseburger from Sonic. I could mostly taste it but not quite 100%. If health continues to improve I will submit a work clearance request tomorrow. This victory of the Kansas City Chiefs will certainly lend aid to a good night's rest as the viewing of highlights will make for good bedtime tv.

Isolation ends tomorrow night. I welcome the thought of hugging and kissing my Son again. It has been sorely missed. I also welcome kissing and hugging my Wife again but it's my Son that I miss the most. I cannot recall looking this forward to a Monday.

[phisherman]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Same here, then we moved to Blue Springs. Never liked The Scummit ever since.

What year did you graduate? I might actually know your suzzy ass.

[phisherman]

Post-match update of Pete's friend from work: Chiefs dominated. I told him they would kick the shit out of the Jets and he didn't really argue with me.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by phisherman

What year did you graduate? I might actually know your suzzy ass.

1987