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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

ArrowheadMagic · 09-19-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

But that does not fit in with OU wanting to leave because they are pissed at Texas. Why bother moving if Texas is just coming along with ya?

Posturing, IMO. Forcing UT to decide TV with weaker league or equal revenue sharing. IMO, OU wants to stay in a stable Big 12. UT/OU are intertwined, each requires the other at this point. OU being pissed is an overstatement. If Boren and Joe C. were pissed they wouldnt have met with UT a week ago.

Garcia Bronco · 09-19-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

Big 12 schools going to the ACC doesn't make sense from a geographic or rivalry standpoint. The Big East/Big 12 combo would make an effective basketball conference even without Pitt and Syracuse. They would still trump the ACC in football. It will be a pretty spread out conference though.

No big 12 team will go to the ACC.

**DeezNutz** · 09-19-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

No big 12 team will go to the ACC.

Thank goodness. No way anyone wants to have to face VT every year.

vailpass · 09-19-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

In this case, it is not a rumor because it is a freaking public meeting. They can meet in executive session all they want which leads us to wonder what they discussed, but Bohls only reported what they officially empowered Texas to do. Or, rather, what they did NOT empower Texas to do.

So no, it is not a rumor. Sometimes you have real hard news in this mess.

Sure thing big guy. Looks like you have a handle on this thing.

Garcia Bronco · 09-19-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Thank goodness. No way anyone wants to have to face VT every year.

Exactly.

vailpass · 09-19-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Garcia Bronco is a Virginia Tech fan, if y'all didn't know.

If his debate skills regarding the prowess of ACC football are any indicator that there VaTech degree is as useful as the boil on Beamer's face.

**alnorth** · 09-19-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Sure thing big guy. Looks like you have a handle on this thing.

This is a classic textbook troll response: When you are confronted with absolute indisputable proof that something you said was wrong, under NO circumstances should you EVER take the high road and admit you were wrong. The high road is only travelled on by losers. Instead you should give a non-response coupled with a condescending insult.

**Saul Good** · 09-19-2011, 07:18 PM

Mark Blaudschun from the Boston Globe tweeting that the SEC will add aTm and Mizzou and stand pat at 14.

tk13 · 09-19-2011, 07:25 PM

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bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
I can confirm that #mizzou will NOT join the AFC west to replace the #chiefs

bobfescoe Bob Fescoe
Also hearing today, and it WILL change tomorrow, that the ACC really wants KU...stay tuned

**Saul Good** · 09-19-2011, 07:48 PM

KU probably wants the ACC to let them bring Texas along, but the ACC only wants Kansas.

Bewbies · 09-19-2011, 07:51 PM

KU in the ACC would make it the dream team of basketball conferences. Adding Pitt, Syracuse, UCONN and KU to what they already have? HOLY SHEEOT!

**Saul Good** · 09-19-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

KU in the ACC would make it the dream team of basketball conferences. Adding Pitt, Syracuse, UCONN and KU to what they already have? HOLY SHEEOT!

It makes perfect sense that a team 300 miles west of the Mississippi would be added to a conference that is bunched up against the Eastern sea board.

**alnorth** · 09-19-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

It makes perfect sense that a team 300 miles west of the Mississippi would be added to a conference that is bunched up against the Eastern sea board.

Any port in a storm

**Saul Good** · 09-19-2011, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Any port in a storm

If you're Kansas, yes. If you're the ACC, no.

Mr_Tomahawk · 09-19-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

It makes perfect sense that a team 300 miles west of the Mississippi would be added to a conference that is bunched up against the Eastern sea board.

Yeah...in addition to the convenience of fans traveling to the games to support their team.

I really hope ND goes to the Big10 so KU has a somewhat of a chance of getting in with their expansion. It wouldn't be a terrible conference if you are talking about basketball with MSU and OSU.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning	Mark Blaudschun from the Boston Globe tweeting that the SEC will add aTm and Mizzou and stand pat at 14.
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09-19-2011, 07:48 PM	#445
Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning	KU probably wants the ACC to let them bring Texas along, but the ACC only wants Kansas.
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Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Bewbies's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2010	KU in the ACC would make it the dream team of basketball conferences. Adding Pitt, Syracuse, UCONN and KU to what they already have? HOLY SHEEOT!
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