Hip Drop Tackle Penalty Impact

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Enforcing the hip-drop tackle could increase automatic first-down penalties by 25.1% and add 3,000 penalty yards, a 35.7% increase from 2023

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Drama sells.

[HayWire]

Starting next season the defense is going to stop and ask the player if its ok both parties will have to sign a release before the play resumes. Should make for a good and equal game.

im still waiting to see someone where them goofy helmet pads

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Obviously you are exaggerating but I have no problem watching backups play. They still made it to the NFL.

If the game continues to get more and more soft it will be unwatchable IMO. So, be careful what you wish for and stop being so soft is my advice to the fans and HCs that constantly favor these pussy rules.

Jets games with Zach Wilson and Vikings games with dobbs were disgustingly unwatchable. Thursday night football were ratings disasters. When one team, let alone two teams, are really really bad it’s awful to watch. People can talk all day long about how they’d watch shitty football but when the game actually comes on not a single person would tolerate more than a few minutes of it.

I am proudest of our wins against josh Allen and Joe burrow. I gave zero shits about beating browning, and he’s actually a halfway decent qb. I want our best guys on the field beating the other teams best. And I want to see playmakers make exciting plays, not a bunch of skyy moores running 3rd grade routes

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Obviously to some extent its about the spectacle.

But really, it's about the overall impact it has. QBs are a little more deliberate about putting balls over the middle and getting guys detonated when that's a legitimate possibility. It allows pass rushers to be more impactful. It forces teams to establish the run to keep LBers honest. It makes different types of players viable (while not taking the truly good waterbugs off the field).

It makes a more rounded game. And it's not because of the hit-stick hits themselves - it's because of the fear of them.

Which is different than the hip drop. That thing is just bad. It doesn't discourage any sort of play/decision. It just hurts guys. I have nothing positive to say about that damn hawk tackle and getting it out of the league is going to be a good thing if/when they can figure out how to enforce it.

I think the regularity of WR concussions is absolutely an issue we don’t talk about enough. I agree there is a little more gray area there but I just hate that a game can swing because defenses can Tonya Harding Justin Jefferson or tyreek. Remember when that douchebag Cisco was shouldering every defenseless WR we had? I hate how much a game can swing especially since we’ve created lots of subjectivity (for good reason) to concussion protocol.

But I would agree hip drops are a bigger issue and way more cut and dry.

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Mahomes should finally get star treatment

Not going to happen, Mahomes is so good he's not going to get calls.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by HayWire

Starting next season the defense is going to stop and ask the player if its ok both parties will have to sign a release before the play resumes. Should make for a good and equal game.

im still waiting to see someone where them goofy helmet pads

I think they’ve approved the helmet pads for next year. If a player wants

[jettio]

That analysis in the opening post must have been some dumbass watching recent game films and calling every tackle with defender lower than ball carrier and pulling a hip drop tackle.

Players making tackles will adjust. And malicious hip drop tackles like that Giants player on Geno Smith on that national broadcast will happen a lot less.

Analysis in opening post is super stupid. What could be interesting will be if more first downs are converted because ballcarriers might be able to get more on second effort when legal tackle is being made.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Jets games with Zach Wilson and Vikings games with dobbs were disgustingly unwatchable. Thursday night football were ratings disasters. When one team, let alone two teams, are really really bad it’s awful to watch. People can talk all day long about how they’d watch shitty football but when the game actually comes on not a single person would tolerate more than a few minutes of it.

I am proudest of our wins against josh Allen and Joe burrow. I gave zero shits about beating browning, and he’s actually a halfway decent qb. I want our best guys on the field beating the other teams best. And I want to see playmakers make exciting plays, not a bunch of skyy moores running 3rd grade routes

How did those teams starting QBs get injured again? And how will this stupid rule prevent back up QBs from playing?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Unless you make it flag football injuries are going to happen and happen often.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

How did those teams starting QBs get injured again? And how will this stupid rule prevent back up QBs from playing?

This would be a very different conversation if mahomes wasn’t extremely lucky to not have been seriously injured by Jacksonville. On a tackle that was blatantly dirty. No, surviving dirty hits should NOT be part of the game. Rewarding Tonya Hardings for knocking out superstars is not good for football.

It’s possible that some of these player safety rules don’t actually fix anything. That’s more than fair. I don’t know how to feel about that either. But the idea that playing backups is good for the game is so laughably absurd. People want to watch tyreek juke guys out of their shorts, not a bunch of replacement players juggling the ball like clowns. They want to watch Aaron rodgers and not throw the entire season away because he is out for the season within a few minutes of the season. Not all these serious injuries are hip drops but they consistently hurt players at such a clip that it’s probably a very way to at least cut that shit down. I guarantee that everyone here has switched off these shitty Thursday night games when one team is so embarrassingly bad it’s uncomfortable to watch

The best football is like end of last year where the best teams beat the best. Not a survival of the fittest where the best team is the one who survives the gladiator battle with the most healthy guys. It is when the chiefs beat the bengals at their best.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

This would be a very different conversation if mahomes wasn’t extremely lucky to not have been seriously injured by Jacksonville. On a tackle that was blatantly dirty. No, surviving dirty hits should NOT be part of the game. Rewarding Tonya Hardings for knocking out superstars is not good for football.

It’s possible that some of these player safety rules don’t actually fix anything. That’s more than fair. I don’t know how to feel about that either. But the idea that playing backups is good for the game is so laughably absurd. People want to watch tyreek juke guys out of their shorts, not a bunch of replacement players juggling the ball like clowns. They want to watch Aaron rodgers and not throw the entire season away because he is out for the season within a few minutes of the season. Not all these serious injuries are hip drops but they consistently hurt players at such a clip that it’s probably a very way to at least cut that shit down. I guarantee that everyone here has switched off these shitty Thursday night games when one team is so embarrassingly bad it’s uncomfortable to watch

The best football is like end of last year where the best teams beat the best. Not a survival of the fittest where the best team is the one who survives the gladiator battle with the most healthy guys. It is when the chiefs beat the bengals at their best.

Part of the game, bud

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Part of the game, bud

Players once wear leather helmets
They once played with minimal equipment
There used to be no concussion protocol
Chop blocks used to be legal
Goal posts used to be in front of the end zone

It is not part of the game just because it’s always been done that way. Players are faster, stronger killing machines and the Wild West of doing what you want would injure and retire the league to obscurity. Rules need to evolve. And when rules change players will adapt and learn to tackle better.

The game is your best players playing against the other teams best. It is not a game of gladiator

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If (and for now it’s an “if”) it cuts down on season ending injuries it’s worth it.

Yeah i said it.

Why don't you just go and "put your flags on" and play in your own backyard.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Why don't you just go and "put your flags on" and play in your own backyard.

Y’all are goofy. You talk about how backups are part of the game but millions of y’all tune the **** out when guys like Aaron rodgers get hurt. The best players on the field is way better football than players being allowed to tackle and hit more freely. Maybe you should just watch the old xfl where players could do whatever the **** they want, since the quality of players on the field doesn’t have any impact on ratings.