Josh Gordon to Chiefs

[DaKCMan AP]

Former All-Pro WR Josh Gordon, who is being reinstated, is planning to sign with the Kansas City Chiefs, sources tell ESPN. His agents, Eric Dounn and Matt Leist from @LAASportsEnt, confirmed Gordon is headed to Kansas City. pic.twitter.com/nqpJXn3oni

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) September 27, 2021

[TimeForWasp]

So we have a DE Jonesing for a big hit, and we have a reciever Jonesing for a big hit

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Watching his 2018-19 film has me legitimately excited.

I watched plenty of the Patriots in those years and Gordon was a very good WR for those teams. If he has retained anywhere near that kind of skill level two years later, he's more than good enough to make a difference for this team.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Oh shut up, nobody cares. Good god you're obsessed. You're so desperate for recognition around here.

Lol keep making dumb statememts so I can keep clowning you please..it's funny

[TEX]

Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon

But does he have a history of abusing 5th and 6th chances?

Absolutely. And more if you include his college days. Actually it starts way before then... My point was, and it's accurate, is thst he has been given a countless number of chances, because of his athletic ability, and has always failed. He's said it himself...Everyone else understood my point. I'll know next time to give you just as many chances, as has been given Gordon, to understand.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I watched plenty of the Patriots in those years and Gordon was a very good WR for those teams. If he has retained anywhere near that kind of skill level two years later, he's more than good enough to make a difference for this team.

That's where I'm at...just depends on his level of dedication/determination.

The guy is the only player in NFL history to post back-to-back 200+ yard games.

He had 1600+ yards receiving while only playing 14 games...with Brian Hoyer, Jason Campbell, and Brandon Weeden at QB.

That is generational, Calvin Johnson type shit. It didn't matter which QB was throwing him the ball.

I know that was a long time ago...but he is 27 in football years.

That level of talent isn't something to just brush off...he isnt 34 years old. Kelce is older than he is...just for reference.

I'm not expecting miracles...just saying 60% Gordon is better than any 3rd option the Chiefs have. This guy was posting first ballot HOF numbers before his downward spiral. Hell, 30% would equal the numbers Watkins produced...

I'm pulling for him to resurrect himself in KC...

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

In these highlights from just a few years ago (2018, 2019), Gordon looked even better than I remember. This is better stuff than we saw from Watkins in his time with KC: https://youtu.be/dWW3bbBBWnc

I’m cautiously excited. Not gonna suspend him for weed so stay off the PEDs and it’s all about catching TDs.

Not so sure about the weed thing. Since he's still presumably in the substance abuse program his testing may be a lot stricter than the average NFL player. Sounds like he's not even allowed alcohol either because of his DUI.

[YayMike]

Wow! I stayed away Monday after the Sandy ego choke job, but this could not be better news. Means they realize the offense is in big trouble only with only 87/10. Great news: now trade for a goddamn linebacker to get Neimann off the field and I’ll be happier than my ex wife in shit

[loochy]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I will say this, given his age and the concerns, this is the kind of move that could end up impacting 2022 as well. A lot of “if”s have to happen first, but it’s possible.

Per Schefter, Josh Gordon had multiple teams contact him about potentially signing. The Chiefs were reportedly attractive because he sees it as a long-term stop. Gordon turned 30 in April.

— Jordan Dajani (@JordanDajani) September 27, 2021

Sounds like Gordon is hoping to be here in 2022.

A WR group of Hill, Gordon, Hardman, day 1 or 2 pick, and Powell would be nice.

Hey everyone, it's an STAYLOR sighting!

[Cheater5]

I trust Andy and Veach-- they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

However, if future reflects past-- how have these past-their-prime signings worked out for us recently? Did McCoy, Suggs, or Bell significantly impact the outcome of the last two seasons? Wisniewski was much needed help for sure-- but I am skeptical that a 30 year old Josh Gordon is what we need right now. I am the most casual of fan and watch purely for enjoyment, but this doesn't give me wood.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Cheater5

I trust Andy and Veach-- they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

However, if future reflects past-- how have these past-their-prime signings worked out for us recently? Did McCoy, Suggs, or Bell significantly impact the outcome of the last two seasons? Wisniewski was much needed help for sure-- but I am skeptical that a 30 year old Josh Gordon is what we need right now. I am the most casual of fan and watch purely for enjoyment, but this doesn't give me wood.

Suggs absolutely helped.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Cheater5

I trust Andy and Veach-- they have earned the benefit of the doubt.

However, if future reflects past-- how have these past-their-prime signings worked out for us recently? Did McCoy, Suggs, or Bell significantly impact the outcome of the last two seasons? Wisniewski was much needed help for sure-- but I am skeptical that a 30 year old Josh Gordon is what we need right now. I am the most casual of fan and watch purely for enjoyment, but this doesn't give me wood.

Suggs 100 percent did. He was really impactful to that defensive performance down the stretch and in the playoffs.

It’s crazy reading how often he was high/drunk while playing before.

Makes me wonder if - if he’s truly clean - his performance is better athletically than we might expect because he isn’t under the influence.

Sure, he’s 30 and hasn’t played for 2 years. But if he’s actually clean and his body isn’t constantly filled with toxins that it’s fighting, was does that mean for how it performs?

Maybe his peak physical potential isn’t what it was way back when, but maybe he comes closer to realizing his full current potential.

I’m rooting for him. Addiction is a bitch. I hope for his sake, he at least is able to move forward and stay on a good path and keep good support around himself for when challenges do pop up.

And obviously, it helps the Chiefs. So yeah.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Here, I bolded the interesting parts for you:

Middle and high school — Gordon told GQ‘s Clay Skipper he first started self-medicating with Xanax, marijuana, and codeine in middle school. He said his initial usage stemmed from social awkwardness, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, and “adolescent trauma-based fear.” According to Gordon, the drugs helped “numb those nerves so [he could] just function every day.” When he was in seventh grade, Gordon said he took a “whole bar” of Xanax and ended up “nodding off” and “drooling” in class. He said his peers started laughing at him.

“The teacher’s back was turned, and I just kinda raised my hand and asked to go to the restroom real quick,” Gordon told Skipper. “That was my first experience of a high. In 7th grade. And it was to that extent. So I was definitely out of control.”

Gordon told Sports Illustrated‘s Ben Baskin he was expelled from two middle schools for stealing electronics from other students. During that time, his usage also continued. Gordon earned a basketball scholarship at Westbury Christian, a prep school in Houston, but was thrown out in the 10th grade for marijuana. He then attended and graduated from Lamar High, a public school in Houston.

At Lamar, Gordon said he joined a gang, Six Deuce Harvard Park Brim Blood, which involved carrying and shooting a gun — never “maliciously,” he said — stealing cars, fighting, scamming businesses with counterfeit money, and dealing drugs.

Gordon said he sold drugs, mainly marijuana, to “feed” himself. He said he smoked marijuana every day and drank vodka from Minute Maid bottles during class. He said he also started drinking codeine syrup mixed with soda his junior year and experimented with Xanax, hydrocodone, and oxycodone at nearly every opportunity. Before football games, Gordon said he would chug Mad Dog 20-20, flavored fortified wine, to gauge whether he could play drunk.

College (Baylor): Gordon was recruited by several Div. I programs, but chose Baylor because his supervised probation following a felony credit card theft when he was 17 years old prevented him from living outside the state of Texas. Gordon was required to return home to Houston once a month for drug tests and he said he only passed because his diluted samples were never flagged.

As a sophomore, Gordon was arrested mid-season when police found him and teammate Willie Jefferson asleep in a car parked in the drive-thru lane of a Taco Bell at 2 a.m. Officers found multiple bags of marijuana in the car, and both players were charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession, though the charges were dropped. Gordon’s coach at the time, Art Briles, also suspended him. Gordon played in 13 games, recording 42 catches for 714 yards and seven touchdowns that season.

While at Baylor, Gordon said a dealer from home would send him as much as six pounds of weed per week that he would sell in Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. He estimates he banked over $10,000 per month from dealing.

Gordon told Uninterrupted in October 2017 that a coach at Baylor helped him cheat drug tests. Gordon said the coach instructed him to take “these bottles of detox.”

“I’ve been enabled most of my life honestly,” Gordon said. “I’ve been enabled by coaches, teachers, professors — everybody pretty much gave me a second chance just because of my ability.”

Briles suspended Gordon again before the start of his junior season — this time indefinitely. Briles said the suspension was for an undisclosed rules violation, but Gordon has since revealed in interviews “it was due to a failed marijuana test.”

Despite his suspensions at Baylor, Gordon received transfer offers from schools like UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Utah. He said he would smoke blunts and pop Adderall on the way to a few visits. Gordon left Baylor in 2011.

College (Utah): Gordon transferred to Utah, where he said he tried cocaine for the first time. He told SI he also began taking Adderall daily. After failing another drug test, he returned home to Houston, where he said he began selling marijuana again to support his family. Gordon never took a snap at Utah, instead opting for the NFL’s supplemental draft in 2012.

NFL (Cleveland Browns): Gordon told GQ he had a pregame ritual where he would take bong rips and/or shots of Grand Marnier or whiskey before kick-off.

“I would drink probably like half a glass, or a couple shots to try and warm my system up,” he said. “To get the motor running. That’s what I would do for games.”

Gordon estimated he had something in his system for “probably every game of [his] career,” including those in college. Gordon said he also frequently missed meetings and often showed up late — with bloodshot eyes.

2012: Gordon’s rookie year is the only season he’s played in all 16 games. He logged 50 receptions for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

2013: Prior to the start of the 2013 season, Gordon was suspended two games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He started Cleveland’s remaining 14 games, hauling in 87 receptions for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns. In Weeks 12 and 13, Gordon became the first NFL player to record back-to-back 200-yard receiving games. He finished the year as the league leader in receiving yards and earned first-team All-Pro as well as Pro-Bowl honors.

2014: Prior to the start of the 2014 season, Gordon was arrested for a DWI in Raleigh, N.C. According to police, he was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. His blood-alcohol level was .09 — .01 over the legal limit. Two months after Gordon’s arrest, the NFL announced he had been suspended the entire 2014 season for a failed drug test (marijuana). The suspension was later reduced to 10 games due to the league’s reformed drug policy.

Gordon played five games in 2014, recording 24 catches for 303 yards. He was suspended by the Browns for the final game of the season for a violation of team rules. Gordon said he had missed the team’s Saturday walkthrough.

“I stayed out late, but the thing is we had to be up in the morning for like a 7:30 a.m. team meeting,” Gordon told Uninterrupted. “I didn’t wake up until 10 o’clock, 10:15, coming out of a blackout. I’m getting a bunch of texts and calls, you know, from coaches, ‘Where you at? We’re headed to the tarmac already.’ I’m like, ‘Ah, s***.'”

2015: Gordon was suspended the entire 2015 season due to another violation (alcohol) of the league’s substance abuse policy. Days after the suspension was reported, Gordon published an open letter in The Cauldron in which he acknowledged his “repeated transgressions.”

“I failed myself when started using marijuana regularly as a young teenager,” he wrote. “I failed myself when I ruined a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be Robert Griffin III’s running mate during his Heisman Trophy-winning season at Baylor. I failed myself when I didn’t check with the league office to ensure that my doctor-prescribed, codeine-based medicine was allowed under NFL guidelines. I failed myself when I was arrested for driving a motor vehicle with a blood-alcohol level over the legal limit. I failed myself when I missed a team walkthrough late in the season and was suspended for the final game of the year.”

2016: Gordon’s initial application for reinstatement was denied by the league in April because he failed another drug test. Gordon was reinstated by the NFL in July, allowing him to participate in training camp, but he remained suspended for four games to start the season. Gordon was expected to play in Week 5, but he elected to enroll in a 30-day intensive rehab program in New Hampshire.

“After careful thought and deep consideration, I’ve decided that I need to step away from pursuing my return to the Browns and my football career to enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility,” Gordon said in a statement. “This is the right decision for me and one that I hope will enable me to gain full control of my life and continue on a path to reach my full potential as a person. I appreciate the support of the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, my teammates, my agent, and the community through this extremely challenging process.”

Following his completion of the program, Gordon once again had to be reinstated by the league. He did not take a snap during the 2016 season.

Gordon told GQ he stayed sober for six months following his initial 30-day stint in rehab. He then wanted to celebrate “in the way [he knows] how,” which was drugs and alcohol. Gordon said at this point he reached his “rock bottom” and checked back into rehab for over three months.

“I found myself around the city of Gainesville just wandering, looking for a drug dealer,” he told Uninterrupted. “Looking for people on the street corner, whatever smelled like weed, somebody that looked like they had something, asking random people, knocking on like smoke shop storefronts seeing where I could find some stuff at. I was just looking for something, some type of relief.”

According to GQ, Gordon was also informed in 2016 that there was a warrant out for his arrest for failure to comply with a paternity test. He said he wondered, “Who’s this girl? If there is a kid, who is this kid?” Gordon admitted to being his daughter’s father in court.

2017: Gordon’s application for reinstatement was first denied by the NFL in May. He reapplied in the fall and was granted conditional eligibility, with the potential to be active in Week 13. Gordon played in five games in 2017, recording 18 receptions for 335 yards and a touchdown.

2018: Gordon announced he would miss the start of training camp to focus on his recovery. He said his absence was “part of [his] overall health and treatment plan.”

“I am reaching out to you all personally and letting you know that I am not only doing great physically but mentally as well,” Gordon wrote in a statement.

Gordon remains in Stage 3 of the NFL’s substance-abuse program, which means he is subject to random drug testing. If he fails a test, he faces another indefinite suspension. Gordon told Uninterrupted the consequences of his actions “never really set in,” but he also called the experience “humbling.”

“If you fail a drug test, you know, this is over, they’re not going to let you keep playing,” Gordon said. “I never really took it serious. I thought I could keep on doing it and getting away with it and getting away with it.”

Middle and high school — Gordon told GQ‘s Clay Skipper he first started self-medicating with Xanax, marijuana, and codeine in middle school. He said his initial usage stemmed from social awkwardness, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy, and “adolescent trauma-based fear.” According to Gordon, the drugs helped “numb those nerves so [he could] just function every day.” When he was in seventh grade, Gordon said he took a “whole bar” of Xanax and ended up “nodding off” and “drooling” in class. He said his peers started laughing at him.

“The teacher’s back was turned, and I just kinda raised my hand and asked to go to the restroom real quick,” Gordon told Skipper. “That was my first experience of a high. In 7th grade. And it was to that extent. So I was definitely out of control.”

Gordon told Sports Illustrated‘s Ben Baskin he was expelled from two middle schools for stealing electronics from other students. During that time, his usage also continued. Gordon earned a basketball scholarship at Westbury Christian, a prep school in Houston, but was thrown out in the 10th grade for marijuana. He then attended and graduated from Lamar High, a public school in Houston.

At Lamar, Gordon said he joined a gang, Six Deuce Harvard Park Brim Blood, which involved carrying and shooting a gun — never “maliciously,” he said — stealing cars, fighting, scamming businesses with counterfeit money, and dealing drugs.

Gordon said he sold drugs, mainly marijuana, to “feed” himself. He said he smoked marijuana every day and drank vodka from Minute Maid bottles during class. He said he also started drinking codeine syrup mixed with soda his junior year and experimented with Xanax, hydrocodone, and oxycodone at nearly every opportunity. Before football games, Gordon said he would chug Mad Dog 20-20, flavored fortified wine, to gauge whether he could play drunk.

College (Baylor): Gordon was recruited by several Div. I programs, but chose Baylor because his supervised probation following a felony credit card theft when he was 17 years old prevented him from living outside the state of Texas. Gordon was required to return home to Houston once a month for drug tests and he said he only passed because his diluted samples were never flagged.

As a sophomore, Gordon was arrested mid-season when police found him and teammate Willie Jefferson asleep in a car parked in the drive-thru lane of a Taco Bell at 2 a.m. Officers found multiple bags of marijuana in the car, and both players were charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession, though the charges were dropped. Gordon’s coach at the time, Art Briles, also suspended him. Gordon played in 13 games, recording 42 catches for 714 yards and seven touchdowns that season.

While at Baylor, Gordon said a dealer from home would send him as much as six pounds of weed per week that he would sell in Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. He estimates he banked over $10,000 per month from dealing.

Gordon told Uninterrupted in October 2017 that a coach at Baylor helped him cheat drug tests. Gordon said the coach instructed him to take “these bottles of detox.”

“I’ve been enabled most of my life honestly,” Gordon said. “I’ve been enabled by coaches, teachers, professors — everybody pretty much gave me a second chance just because of my ability.”

Briles suspended Gordon again before the start of his junior season — this time indefinitely. Briles said the suspension was for an undisclosed rules violation, but Gordon has since revealed in interviews “it was due to a failed marijuana test.”

Despite his suspensions at Baylor, Gordon received transfer offers from schools like UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Utah. He said he would smoke blunts and pop Adderall on the way to a few visits. Gordon left Baylor in 2011.

College (Utah): Gordon transferred to Utah, where he said he tried cocaine for the first time. He told SI he also began taking Adderall daily. After failing another drug test, he returned home to Houston, where he said he began selling marijuana again to support his family. Gordon never took a snap at Utah, instead opting for the NFL’s supplemental draft in 2012.

NFL (Cleveland Browns): Gordon told GQ he had a pregame ritual where he would take bong rips and/or shots of Grand Marnier or whiskey before kick-off.

“I would drink probably like half a glass, or a couple shots to try and warm my system up,” he said. “To get the motor running. That’s what I would do for games.”

Gordon estimated he had something in his system for “probably every game of [his] career,” including those in college. Gordon said he also frequently missed meetings and often showed up late — with bloodshot eyes.

2012: Gordon’s rookie year is the only season he’s played in all 16 games. He logged 50 receptions for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

2013: Prior to the start of the 2013 season, Gordon was suspended two games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy. He started Cleveland’s remaining 14 games, hauling in 87 receptions for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns. In Weeks 12 and 13, Gordon became the first NFL player to record back-to-back 200-yard receiving games. He finished the year as the league leader in receiving yards and earned first-team All-Pro as well as Pro-Bowl honors.

2014: Prior to the start of the 2014 season, Gordon was arrested for a DWI in Raleigh, N.C. According to police, he was pulled over just before 3 a.m. for driving 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. His blood-alcohol level was .09 — .01 over the legal limit. Two months after Gordon’s arrest, the NFL announced he had been suspended the entire 2014 season for a failed drug test (marijuana). The suspension was later reduced to 10 games due to the league’s reformed drug policy.

Gordon played five games in 2014, recording 24 catches for 303 yards. He was suspended by the Browns for the final game of the season for a violation of team rules. Gordon said he had missed the team’s Saturday walkthrough.

“I stayed out late, but the thing is we had to be up in the morning for like a 7:30 a.m. team meeting,” Gordon told Uninterrupted. “I didn’t wake up until 10 o’clock, 10:15, coming out of a blackout. I’m getting a bunch of texts and calls, you know, from coaches, ‘Where you at? We’re headed to the tarmac already.’ I’m like, ‘Ah, s***.'”

2015: Gordon was suspended the entire 2015 season due to another violation (alcohol) of the league’s substance abuse policy. Days after the suspension was reported, Gordon published an open letter in The Cauldron in which he acknowledged his “repeated transgressions.”

“I failed myself when started using marijuana regularly as a young teenager,” he wrote. “I failed myself when I ruined a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be Robert Griffin III’s running mate during his Heisman Trophy-winning season at Baylor. I failed myself when I didn’t check with the league office to ensure that my doctor-prescribed, codeine-based medicine was allowed under NFL guidelines. I failed myself when I was arrested for driving a motor vehicle with a blood-alcohol level over the legal limit. I failed myself when I missed a team walkthrough late in the season and was suspended for the final game of the year.”

2016: Gordon’s initial application for reinstatement was denied by the league in April because he failed another drug test. Gordon was reinstated by the NFL in July, allowing him to participate in training camp, but he remained suspended for four games to start the season. Gordon was expected to play in Week 5, but he elected to enroll in a 30-day intensive rehab program in New Hampshire.

“After careful thought and deep consideration, I’ve decided that I need to step away from pursuing my return to the Browns and my football career to enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility,” Gordon said in a statement. “This is the right decision for me and one that I hope will enable me to gain full control of my life and continue on a path to reach my full potential as a person. I appreciate the support of the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, my teammates, my agent, and the community through this extremely challenging process.”

Following his completion of the program, Gordon once again had to be reinstated by the league. He did not take a snap during the 2016 season.

Gordon told GQ he stayed sober for six months following his initial 30-day stint in rehab. He then wanted to celebrate “in the way [he knows] how,” which was drugs and alcohol. Gordon said at this point he reached his “rock bottom” and checked back into rehab for over three months.

“I found myself around the city of Gainesville just wandering, looking for a drug dealer,” he told Uninterrupted. “Looking for people on the street corner, whatever smelled like weed, somebody that looked like they had something, asking random people, knocking on like smoke shop storefronts seeing where I could find some stuff at. I was just looking for something, some type of relief.”

According to GQ, Gordon was also informed in 2016 that there was a warrant out for his arrest for failure to comply with a paternity test. He said he wondered, “Who’s this girl? If there is a kid, who is this kid?” Gordon admitted to being his daughter’s father in court.

2017: Gordon’s application for reinstatement was first denied by the NFL in May. He reapplied in the fall and was granted conditional eligibility, with the potential to be active in Week 13. Gordon played in five games in 2017, recording 18 receptions for 335 yards and a touchdown.

2018: Gordon announced he would miss the start of training camp to focus on his recovery. He said his absence was “part of [his] overall health and treatment plan.”

“I am reaching out to you all personally and letting you know that I am not only doing great physically but mentally as well,” Gordon wrote in a statement.

Gordon remains in Stage 3 of the NFL’s substance-abuse program, which means he is subject to random drug testing. If he fails a test, he faces another indefinite suspension. Gordon told Uninterrupted the consequences of his actions “never really set in,” but he also called the experience “humbling.”

“If you fail a drug test, you know, this is over, they’re not going to let you keep playing,” Gordon said. “I never really took it serious. I thought I could keep on doing it and getting away with it and getting away with it.”[/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by tredadda

I see what you did there.

Thanks guys!

[oldman]

Originally Posted by tredadda

This does potentially mean Less Pringle.

But what does it mean to Dieter??

I guess this move is OK if he keeps on the straight and narrow until after the SB. I just don't see this as a long term union. So which of the slugs do you demote/part ways with?

We also have to look at Gay coming back, so who do you bump there?

[Mulliganman]

I don't understand all the negativity on this one. It's a low risk high reward type move. Not much else is out there that the team could bring in and this one won't cost picks that the team needs from the draft.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Mulliganman

I don't understand all the negativity on this one. It's a low risk high reward type move. Not much else is out there that the team could bring in and this one won't cost picks that the team needs from the draft.

IF Gordon has anything left, this is a good add for KC. Providing he doesn't start blazing away again in a few weeks.