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11-13-2019, 09:51 AM | #4096 |
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I’ve got little issue in a vacuum with bringing Gordon back if it’s a one-year deal.
He IS a good role model in the clubhouse for young players to look up, someone to respect and emulate. He adds some things that pure stats can’t quantify. But he needs to be used reasonably. Khalil Lee needs to be able to get a look late. Nick Heath probably deserves a look. Brett Phillips, Bubba Starling and Ryan O’Hearn shouldn’t lose ABs because of his presence. They shouldn’t sign another placeholder veteran if they bring Gordon back. |
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11-13-2019, 09:59 AM | #4097 |
"You like to drink?"
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11-13-2019, 10:06 AM | #4098 | |
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11-13-2019, 11:43 AM | #4099 |
Wasted away again...
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11-13-2019, 12:33 PM | #4100 |
Herm is the worst...horrible
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While I know this is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, where Pence is concerned, I'm not sure he's going to be playing any more baseball outside of playing for the Rangers. He lives in the area and I think he's finished if it's not playing for the local team.
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11-13-2019, 12:45 PM | #4101 |
In Search of a Life
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11-13-2019, 04:01 PM | #4102 |
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Cal Eldred appears to be staying on as pitching coach. I don't know much about him, but most around here seem to think he's awful. But he's apparently close with Matheny, so he's staying. What an all star staff we're building.
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11-13-2019, 05:49 PM | #4103 |
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If Bubba and Brett Phillips can't hit over .200 you can't run them out for 162. There's no way Dayton's going to go for that. If it's not Gordon there's almost surely going to be another veteran outfielder. Someone who can be a safety net if we have three outfielders with a .500 OPS.
Same thing is true with Nicky Lopez. If he can't hit they're going to put Whit at 2nd so you can't put him in LF. |
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11-14-2019, 08:05 AM | #4104 |
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You know, in light of this Astros scandal, I can’t help but think back to the 2015 ALDS and how terrible Ryan Madson was against the Astros.
Makes me think maybe something was up even then. If you’re a FB-CH guy, stealing signs can crush you. Because a changeup in the zone is just a slow two-seamer when you know it’s coming. I always kind of thought that was why he struggled against the Jays, too. |
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11-14-2019, 08:34 AM | #4105 | |
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11-14-2019, 08:54 AM | #4106 |
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I personally don't care to much about this, teams have been stealing signs forever, it is what it is.
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11-14-2019, 08:55 AM | #4107 | |
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Yeah. I can’t find full game clips, either. I want to. The Jays were accused of stealing signs in home games a lot during that era (guy in CF, etc.) Would explain some of why Madson got destroyed by them at home and also why Cueto was so anxious about signs he ended up tipping the signs himself with the approach he switched to. |
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11-14-2019, 09:24 AM | #4108 |
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Beltran named as one of the guys involved now.
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11-14-2019, 09:29 AM | #4109 | |
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Having a dude sit up there with a high-powered camera while setting up a video monitor in the tunnel to relay signs is a step WELL beyond a runner at 2b altering his lead for an offspeed pitch. It's super shitty, IMO. |
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11-14-2019, 09:31 AM | #4110 | |
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Not sure how I feel when technology is involved like here with the cameras and the smart watch a from a few years ago. But then in football you have guys studying replays and pictures on the sidelines trying to figure out the opposing defense. Every sport has its own culture of what is acceptable. |
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