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11-12-2019, 01:41 PM | #4081 |
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11-12-2019, 01:48 PM | #4082 |
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11-12-2019, 01:53 PM | #4083 |
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For how long does that give Moore a pass? 5 years? 10 years? 15? Eventually the past needs to be the past and the present the present. Tampa doesn't have the world series hardware but outside of that they're not even in the same universe as KC when it comes to team management.
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11-12-2019, 02:01 PM | #4084 |
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11-12-2019, 02:12 PM | #4085 | |
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I was willing to give him till 2022. You know, cause of the next wave of prospects and the contention window re-opening then (The Process, Part 2), and then he goes and hires shitface (a.k.a. Matheny), the worst possible manager for a young team trying to figure things out. That closed the door on any goodwill he had from the 2014-2015 seasons. If Matheny turns out the way most of us think he will, both he and Moore will be gone come 2022, unless Sherman turns out to be an absentee owner. Last edited by TomBarndtsTwin; 11-13-2019 at 12:33 AM.. |
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11-12-2019, 02:37 PM | #4086 |
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Time was up the minute he hired Mike Matheny.
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11-12-2019, 04:22 PM | #4087 |
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Holy shit, Astros - be more blatant!
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11-12-2019, 06:13 PM | #4088 |
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Yeah I'm amazed that didn't come out before. I had always complimented the Astros because I thought they learned from the Giants and Royals and changed their approach to strike out less and make more contact. When the Royals beat them in 2015 they were one of the top 2-3 strikeout teams, and two years later they completely flipped and won it all as the best contact team in the league.
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11-12-2019, 06:20 PM | #4089 |
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If someone wanted to sell me on the existence of Karma, they could point to the Astros getting blown to **** in all four of their home games in the WS and AJ Hinch’s pompous ass becoming the laughingstock of baseball for pulling Greinke in a generational performance.
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11-12-2019, 10:23 PM | #4090 |
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The Giants just hired Gabe Kapler, so there's that. I was not a fan of hiring Matheny but I actually think I'd rather have him than Gabe Kapler.
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11-12-2019, 10:37 PM | #4091 | |
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They strike me as similar people, except it’s possible Matheny will have improved from v1? Where as Kendall still needs to ruin a few young arms in his initial redass phase. |
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11-12-2019, 11:26 PM | #4092 | |
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Robin Ventura, Kirk Gibson and Dusty Baker are the only 3 I can think of worse than Matheny. |
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11-13-2019, 08:38 AM | #4093 |
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I guess we're likely bringing Gordon back. It had better not be any more than a 1 year deal. I personally think it's time to move on, but it's not something I'd really get worked up over. This team is going to stink no matter what for the foreseeable future. Placating the true fans by hanging on as long as possible to franchise players is pretty much all Dayton Moore has to work with since he has no hope of fielding a competitive team anytime soon.
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11-13-2019, 08:40 AM | #4094 | |
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11-13-2019, 08:48 AM | #4095 |
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