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07-25-2013, 01:58 PM | #3961 | |
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He's not #1 in putting, Phil is. Tiger is #14 in Putts/GIR and 54th in total putting. Quit lying. |
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07-25-2013, 02:01 PM | #3962 |
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07-25-2013, 02:03 PM | #3963 |
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Sure! I can help! Total Putting Select Year: 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 Y-T-D statistics through: The Open Championship Jul 21, 2013 Rank This Week Rank Last Week Player Events Total 1 1 Tiger Woods 10 58.6 2 2 Greg Chalmers 20 59.8 3 3 Peter Hanson 12 70.4 4 4 Bryce Molder 19 70.6 5 5 David Hearn 21 71.1 6 6 Stephen Ames 17 72.3 7 7 Luke Donald 10 75.8 8 8 Aaron Watkins 16 81.6 9 11 Billy Horschel 19 89.6 10 9 Russell Henley 19 90.8 http://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02428.html |
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07-25-2013, 02:08 PM | #3964 | |
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Putts per round is an actual measurement of the number of putts someone takes when they play golf: 54th Putts/GIR is still the de facto standard for putting. http://espn.go.com/golf/statistics/_.../type/expanded 14th Total putting doesn't actually measure how many strokes a player takes on a green they hit, nor how many strokes they take per round. |
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07-25-2013, 02:33 PM | #3965 |
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Total putts is meaningless, it's skewed by your approach shot proximity to the hole. Hitting it tight results in fewer putts by definition. Doesn't mean you putted well.
Here's the best measurement of putting, Sabermetrics geeks like you & I should like this: http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/st...-pga-tour-stat |
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07-25-2013, 02:36 PM | #3966 |
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I agree that strokes gained is a good metric, but it is not the "Total Putting" stat. Furthermore, only a buffoon could watch the majors and say with a straight face that Tiger's putting is not a problem. It obviously is, regardless of what he does at Doral.
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07-25-2013, 02:59 PM | #3967 |
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What's Tiger's Fairways and Greens percentage compared to the field...I think these are the best indicators
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07-25-2013, 03:00 PM | #3968 | |
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07-25-2013, 03:18 PM | #3969 |
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07-25-2013, 09:39 PM | #3970 | |
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Researched this and found that Ben Hogan's 1 iron had more loft than today's 1 irons. The messageboard even had a debate of whether Hogan would be as effective with a modern 1 iron. Idiots. |
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07-25-2013, 09:43 PM | #3971 | |
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I would almost like to see him go back to the driver he used in 2000, wonder if he still has it? I think it was a steel shaft Titleist, 6.5 degree. He hit that thing like 320 easy. |
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07-25-2013, 10:11 PM | #3972 | |
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He's crappy with the driver because he doesn't have the fast twitch speed he once did. More specifically, the Haney swing ruined his driver, as he got way too laid off at the top. He's better with it than he once was, but now he has a dual miss instead of just blowing everything 60 yards right. |
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07-25-2013, 10:13 PM | #3973 |
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He gets so steep with the driver and it gets stuck behind him, so he's either going to snap hook it left or blast it right.
He's trying to change it, but it's taking a while. And FWIW, Hank Haney is an awful golf swing coach. |
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07-25-2013, 10:15 PM | #3974 | |
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Think about it this way: how do you think equipment manufacturers keep getting longer and longer distances out of their irons every year, especially TM? They don't do it via much innovation in the cavity backed iron, but by strengthening the loft. Ping's Eye 2s, for example, had a 36* 7 iron. The G15s were 32* for the same club. |
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07-25-2013, 10:20 PM | #3975 | |
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One thing I'll never understand, O'Meara aside, is how he was dumb enough to take on Haney as a coach. Haney literally quit playing golf because he had the driver yips. Hell, have any of his players on his show actually gotten better because of what he's taught them? I imagine they are better golfers, but I'd bet it's due to practicing a lot rather than anything his dumb ass has taught them. |
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