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[ROYC75]

Discussion: All things Broncos.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

The Broncos had the 11th best defensive DVOA last year despite missing the 7th most games due to injury on defense.

I’m just glad your horribly mismanaged team didn’t get Herbert or Allen.

I LOVE it when your team wastes picks on players like Surtain and Chubb.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I’m just glad your horribly mismanaged team didn’t get Herbert or Allen.

I LOVE it when your team wastes picks on players like Surtain and Chubb.

and letting Shaquil Barrett walk in the process...essentially wasting a top 5 pick for a lesser player. All he did was have 19.5 sacks the following year..

It's moves like this and passing on Feilds...that leads to the second longest post-season drought in the NFL.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by FlaChief58

Could've just stuck with micro cock lock. He and Theodore are interchangeable

Prepare. For. Pain.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

No they didn't...they ranked lower than the Chiefs. The hype over their defense is a myth...

Remember those games where the Bills, Chiefs and Raiders scored 48, 43, and 37?

I did make a mistake. Denver's D had the 11th rated pass DVOA, but had the 13th best total DVOA.

KC's D was 22nd in total DVOA.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...m-defense/2020

Damn. KC had the healthiest D in the league last year. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...es-lost-part-i

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

I did make a mistake. Denver's D had the 11th rated pass DVOA, but had the 13th best total DVOA.

KC's D was 22nd in total DVOA.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...m-defense/2020

Damn. KC had the healthiest D in the league last year. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...es-lost-part-i

Wild. And KC went to the SB, while the Dungkeys brought in Turddy Brokewater

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Good thing they added some guy named Von Miller this offseason. Woulda been nice to have a guy like that last year. Getting Mike Purcell (our best run defender) back from injury should help, too.

Mike Purcell probably plays like Henry Purcell, you pillowbiter

[BlackOp]

Turddy Brownwater....

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

Turddy Brownwater....

There’s no way this isn’t the winner. This should be his name for the 6 games he starts this season.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Good thing they added some guy named Von Miller this offseason. Woulda been nice to have a guy like that last year. Getting Mike Purcell (our best run defender) back from injury should help, too.

Von is done you dumb ****

[Pablo]

Isn't Von like 35? That mother****er isn't doing shit this year.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I love that we have the elite QB edge over Denver AND a better defense. M-O-O-N that spells sweep

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Good thing they added some guy named Von Miller this offseason. Woulda been nice to have a guy like that last year. Getting Mike Purcell (our best run defender) back from injury should help, too.

There used to be an NFL player by the name several years ago. I haven't heard the name in years.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Isn't Von like 35? That mother****er isn't doing shit this year.

Von hasn’t had a double digit sack season in 3 years.

Same with Chubb.

I guess these are the edge rushers everyone should be so scared of.

[Rainbarrel]

Roesthliberger and Ryan are also over 35. Don't worry ex-californians, hope lives on!

[Quesadilla Joe]

Much more at the link...

How offenses need to adapt to the rise of the Vic Fangio-Brandon Staley defense

Every generation, a new schematic empire rises and falls in the NFL. And as the 2021 season begins, it feels as though the age of the Vic Fangio-Brandon Staley defense has arrived.

Vic Fangio has coached in the NFL since 1986, and his status as a defensive mastermind — whether as the Bears’ coordinator from 2015-18 or currently as the Broncos’ head coach — is well established.But 38-year-old Brandon Staley’s first season as the Rams’ defensive coordinator last year was nothing short of a revelation.

Offensive coaches around the league have long talked about Fangio like some sort of football boogeyman — a 60-something, schematic grim reaper in a crewneck sweatshirt. But in Staley, those ideas had a young, charismatic messenger who used them to elevate two of the biggest names in the sport. In the wake of Staley’s success, the levee has broken. Last year, only two teams — the Broncos and the Rams — aligned with two high safeties on close to 80 percent of their plays. Look at any chart conveying defensive structure league-wide, and those two teams were living in their own unique world. This season, that number could easily triple.

As the Chargers’ new head coach, Staley has moved his system about 80 miles down the 405. The Broncos and Rams will carry over the same ideas. Former Rams’ assistant Joe Berry is now the defensive coordinator in Green Bay. Sean Desai is a former Fangio assistant now running the defense in Chicago. The Lions’ new defensive staff has multiple coaches fluent in these ideas.

And that’s before even getting to the inevitable thievery that will happen among teams throughout the league. “After those types of seasons, all types of people call you,” Browns defensive coordinator Joe Woods said of Staley. “Whatever teams play well, in terms of top defenses, teams start copying certain aspects of what they do.”

Like many offensive-minded people around the league, Aaron Rodgers believes that the ideas Staley — and Fangio before him — have brought will represent the next schematic craze. “I think in a pass-happy league, this is the natural progression for defenses,” Rodgers said. “To say, ‘Can you stick to the run game?’ Can you have patience in the run game?’”

To understand how offenses will respond to the inevitable Fangio-Staley clones, it’s important to know what’s made these concepts popular in the first place. As the Seahawks’ single-high, Cover-3 system became all the rage throughout the 2010s, the play-action elements of the Mike Shanahan-Gary Kubiak offense emerged as its natural foil. Staples like Kyle Shanahan’s Burner concept — which paired a vertical corner route with a deep crossing-route situated behind it — were well suited to take advantage of defenses committed to playing with one single high safety and the other rotated into the box. Savvy play-callers like Shanahan and Sean McVay were able to spam defenses with single-high beaters and watch as they reaped the benefits.

Fangio’s method of defense makes life difficult for opponents in several different ways. The first is with the way he attacks their protections with methods that have tormented coaches from the Shanahan-McVay tree. With simulated pressure looks and odd front structures, Fangio and Staley are able to manipulate protection rules and force offenses to keep a back in protection to limit a quarterback’s options.

“As we’ve seen offenses go away from the West Coast offense — which is all about timing, precision, rhythm, spacing — to more scheme-heavy offenses, where it’s a lot of placing guys in spots and letting the system work, quarterbacks are less able to understand protections because they’re just not trained,” Rodgers said.

Mind games upfront may be a subtle annoyance to folks on the inside, but it’s the approach on the back end where Staley has really gotten the world’s attention. The Fangio-Staley defensive system relies on a shell of two high safeties as the foundation of its coverage philosophy. That starting point has multiple benefits for the defense. Because both safeties are playing “from depth,” they’re able to catch all the deep crossing routes that gash defenses content to live in single high. Just as important, a two-high shell also makes defenses much harder to predict. By lining up this way, defenses are able to play any coverage on the menu, and the post-snap picture for quarterbacks starts to blur. Staley’s defense played plenty of Cover 3 last season, but the disguise would often hide the specifics of the coverage until it was too late.

“The two-high and what you run out of that is completely different,” said Lions passing game coordinator Aubrey Pleasant, who served as the Rams’ cornerbacks coach under Staley in 2020. “I just think with the game being spread out, the game being open, not being able to touch defenders, not being able to touch receivers the way you used to in the first five yards, we try to make it a little more cloudy for the quarterback and make him try to figure out post-snap.”

The central tenet of this defensive philosophy is to limit explosive plays, and Staley’s Rams accomplished that better than any defense in the NFL last season. In a league dominated by high-octane passing, this style of defense sends offenses back to the drawing board, forcing them to reevaluate how they want to shape their passing game.

“[Fangio] is one of the more frustrating coordinators to play, because you’re waiting and waiting for an explosive shot, and they don’t ever give them to you,” Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan said. “If you’re a QB that likes to do that, it can be really frustrating. You almost have to change your mindset when you play against those guys.”

https://theathletic.com/2817355/2021...aley-defenses/