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Old 02-27-2024, 08:57 AM  
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:47 AM   #3616
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What are we thinking about LT?

Pretty much zero leaks or news on the Chiefs and any FAs.

The position is too important to hope someone is still available later. That tells me the Chiefs must be confident in Wanya.

Last season seemed a little lucky with Smith still being available after the draft. Maybe we’ll see something similar this year too, but seems like a gamble.
I'd love to have a beer with Andy Heck today...

He'd tell us all we need to know about Wanya's outlook.

I think it's gonna look a lot like last offseason. If BPA in the draft becomes their preferred LT, there you go. Otherwise might just wait to sign insurance after the draft.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:48 AM   #3617
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Do we really think he can't catch 80 balls?
On 100 targets? No.

That's OTW's point. If he's catching 80 balls, he'll need 125+ targets to get there. He's not getting that absent substantial injury to Kelce or Rice.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:49 AM   #3618
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Whoever we sign isn't getting a ton of targets....so what are we even doing then?
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:49 AM   #3619
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Do we know why Ravens didn't want to resign him?


Looks like cap issues.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:51 AM   #3620
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On 100 targets? No.

That's OTW's point. If he's catching 80 balls, he'll need 125+ targets to get there. He's not getting that absent substantial injury to Kelce or Rice.
Eh I actually think he could get 125 targets, we throw a lot, Kelce is obviously moving into having his load managed more and more and Brown would play starter snaps.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:52 AM   #3621
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Eh I actually think he could get 125 targets, we throw a lot, Kelce is obviously moving into having his load managed more and more and Brown would play starter snaps.
I think Kelce load management and a healthy Rice would be necessary to get him to even 100 targets.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:54 AM   #3622
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Do we really think he can't catch 80 balls?
Maybe, but at the detriment of who?

If they fundamentally change the offense and quit spreading the ball around, then sure. Or if someone gets hurt.

Not to mention, again - we've never had a 3rd option break 700 yards - you're upping that by 500?

I feel like we're back to trying to make this guy Tyreek Part II.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:54 AM   #3623
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On 100 targets? No.

That's OTW's point. If he's catching 80 balls, he'll need 125+ targets to get there. He's not getting that absent substantial injury to Kelce or Rice.
This.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:54 AM   #3624
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Whoever we sign isn't getting a ton of targets....so what are we even doing then?


Curious: why not? MVS' targets are available. JWat doesn't need 50 targets; give whoever half of those. Skyy/Toney's targets could be slashed in half; now we have at least 80-90 targets available. Even if we bump Rice's targets up to say 120-130, there should be at least 80-100 targets out there?
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:55 AM   #3625
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I think Kelce load management and a healthy Rice would be necessary to get him to even 100 targets.
The Chiefs changed their style when they realized how bad the WRs were, but I think people forget they sustained a massive ****ton of targets for Hill and Kelce a long with everyone else.

Brown isn't going to command Hills target number by any means.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:57 AM   #3626
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The Chiefs changed their style when they realized how bad the WRs were, but I think people forget they sustained a massive ****ton of targets for Hill and Kelce a long with everyone else.

Brown isn't going to command Hills target number by any means.
I don't disagree. But I think you're overstating how many targets our top 3 options have ever had. We do spread the ball around.

I think something like 125/100/100 is a pretty reasonable expectation as a distribution. Maybe +/- 10 targets on any of those guys but ultimately a pretty stable distribution of targets.

I just don't see any way we go with 125/125/110 or something like that. We just haven't done it that way in the past that I can recall, even when we had Watkins here.
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Why do we think Hollywood catches so few of his targets? I've been looking at his stats. His drop rate is pretty low. His ADOT is higher than a guy like Rashee, but still not all that high.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:58 AM   #3628
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Whoever we sign isn't getting a ton of targets....so what are we even doing then?
That's been my point all week.

Historically in the Mahomes era, we've never targeted the 3rd option more than 80 times, and it's never resulted in more than 700 yards.

Why overpay for that production?

If you target Hollywood 80 times, he's maybe coming down with 50-55 of them.

At his career YPT, that's 560 yards.

At his career YPC, that's 638 yards.
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Old 03-14-2024, 10:59 AM   #3629
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Saints add to that disaster of a QB room - signed Nathan Peterman.
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I find it funny how you guys want to assign targets.

If you get open, Mahomes will find you. Targets go up. Crazy how that works.
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