***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[wazu]

Originally Posted by TLO

This is what I'm afraid of in the US. Numbers are certainly going to rise as we do more testing. Are people going to flip their shit when they see the number of positive cases go up?

It'll be time to buy more toilet paper.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by F150

https://fox4kc.com/news/hospital-in-...oa846U55FuwTUo


Better report. They only diverted whilst the suspected case was there....

That is from last year

[TLO]

Originally Posted by wazu

It'll be time to buy more toilet paper.

Son of a bitch

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by TLO

This is what I'm afraid of in the US. Numbers are certainly going to rise as we do more testing. Are people going to flip their shit when they see the number of positive cases go up?

Some will and some won't just like you see on here.

[Mennonite]

My old man got an email from Blue Cross telling him that he can receive doctor's consultations online via Physicians Now. He's a little leery, but I think it's a good idea.

EDit: six months from now I'll probably find a camshow of him giving himself a prostate exam on Pornhub

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

They haven't. They outsource all the ER doctors and my dad was having a stroke then a seizure and the ER doctor just stared at him and did nothing until I started yelling at him to do something. I should have sued their ass

A few years ago my cousin went to the ER in Hannibal when she developed serious abdominal pain. She was diagnosed with colitis. Over the following months none of the treatments or medications did anything to improve her situation, and her pain level was constant and grew intolerable. They told her that she'd need to have her colon removed. Then she went back to the ER over the pain one night, and at that point was correctly diagnosed with have a ruptured appendix. A RUPTURED ****ING APPENDIX. After it was removed, the pain went away completely. There was nothing wrong with her colon at all.

Through one of the attorneys in my office, I got her in touch with one of the leading medical malpractice attorneys in Missouri, who told her that because of the way the laws are set up, she had no case to sue them for the hell she went through because she ended up suffering no permanent damage.

I shit you not.

Beware of small town hospitals and the doctors who work there.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Frazod

A few years ago my cousin went to the ER in Hannibal when she developed serious abdominal pain. She was diagnosed with colitis. Over the following months none of the treatments or medications did anything to improve her situation, and her pain level was constant and grew intolerable. They told her that she'd need to have her colon removed. Then she went back to the ER over the pain one night, and at that point was correctly diagnosed with have a ruptured appendix. A RUPTURED ****ING APPENDIX. After it was removed, the pain went away completely. There was nothing wrong with her colon at all.

Through one of the attorneys in my office, I got her in touch with one of the leading medical malpractice attorneys in Missouri, who told her that because of the way the laws are set up, she had no case to sue them for the hell she went through because she ended up suffering no permanent damage.

I shit you not.

Beware of small town hospitals and the doctors who work there.

I have my doubts that her appendix was ruptured for a month. Also, I am imagining at some point your cousins received imaging?

Also, if someone recommended a colectomy, she was probably evaluated by a surgeon as well?

[Mennonite]

I work with a lot of older people and it's amazing how many times their doctors **** things up. One guy was recently diagnosed with lung cancer. A month later they told him it might just be a serious infection. Jury's still out on which diagnosis will be the right one. Another guy got a flu shot a few months ago, but they injected him in the arm that he had been treated for lymphoma for a few years ago and now he's got to wear a compression sleeve for the rest of his life. My dad had a GP completely bungle a simple skin cancer removal a year or so ago, too.

I'm not anti-science or anti-medicine, but I hear too many horror stories to feel very confident if I have to go to the hospital.

[TLO]

So there's a woman in KC that they believe is the first case of community transmission.

https://fox4kc.com/tracking-coronavi...-transmission/

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Frazod

A few years ago my cousin went to the ER in Hannibal when she developed serious abdominal pain. She was diagnosed with colitis. Over the following months none of the treatments or medications did anything to improve her situation, and her pain level was constant and grew intolerable. They told her that she'd need to have her colon removed. Then she went back to the ER over the pain one night, and at that point was correctly diagnosed with have a ruptured appendix. A RUPTURED ****ING APPENDIX. After it was removed, the pain went away completely. There was nothing wrong with her colon at all.

Through one of the attorneys in my office, I got her in touch with one of the leading medical malpractice attorneys in Missouri, who told her that because of the way the laws are set up, she had no case to sue them for the hell she went through because she ended up suffering no permanent damage.

I shit you not.

Beware of small town hospitals and the doctors who work there.

**** and luckily they figured it out. As Sauto said our hospital is known as Death Valley and if it wouldn't have been a medical emergency I would have taken him else where.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by TLO

This is what I'm afraid of in the US. Numbers are certainly going to rise as we do more testing. Are people going to flip their shit when they see the number of positive cases go up?

Probably what Chief Roundup was referring to in his cryptic post.

Oh, and yes, they are.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I have my doubts that her appendix was ruptured for a month. Also, I am imagining at some point your cousins received imaging?

Also, if someone recommended a colectomy, she was probably evaluated by a surgeon as well?

I don't know the specifics, and this happened about 10 years ago. I obviously wasn't there and never personally spoke to any of the quacks that treated her. All I know is that she was misdiagnosed and suffered terribly for a long period of time because of it. They were so fixated on the wrong thing that everything else was ignored.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

**** and luckily they figured it out. As Sauto said our hospital is known as Death Valley and if it wouldn't have been a medical emergency I would have taken him else where.

When I was a kid Kirksville had three hospitals. Now they have one, but it seems that if anybody has anything more serious than a hangnail they are sent to Columbia for treatment.

[ping2000]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Do not misunderstand this post, but look around at how people are reacting with what little they do know.

How do you think people would react if they knew the entirety of the story both locally and globally?

People cannot handle the truth and knowledge without over reacting to the point of complete chaos.

[dirk digler]

Here is a cool site if you are interested in the genome data of the virus.

https://nextstrain.org/