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09-29-2021, 07:35 PM | #347 |
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Hill and Kelce dropped due to character issues. Let's not pretend they were diamonds in the rough that Dorsey, due to his superior eye for talent. Also before you highlight the Jones pick, you might want to look at the rest of that draft. Outside of Hill (as previously discussed) and Robinson (who is a JAG) that was a horrific draft. I actually think Dorsey had a pretty good eye for talent, but to put him on a pedestal while bashing Veach is silly. If you want to talk about an eye for talent Veach found Mahomes and he alone trumps Kelce, Hill and Jones.
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09-29-2021, 07:37 PM | #348 | |
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Veach pointed the needle directly at Mahomes and establish a rapport with the people closest to him. I don't think anyone can deny that was a crucial part of this franchise's going out and drafting a QB with the first first round pick since '83. |
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09-29-2021, 07:38 PM | #349 | |
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09-29-2021, 07:44 PM | #350 |
Why so serious?
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I'm not entirely sure that's the lesson. We're dealing with massive survivorship bias here in that most players with character issues absolutely are red flags and flame out and you never hear from them again. It's finding those guys who have a story behind the story or who have a reasonable shot at redemption with a good locker room and a players' coach like Reid.
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09-29-2021, 07:44 PM | #351 | |
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You'd think he pulled Mahomes out of Antarctica or something the way people talk about him. |
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09-29-2021, 07:50 PM | #352 | |
Why so serious?
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Likely answer: No. Conclusion: Veach is primarily responsible for Mahomes. |
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09-29-2021, 07:59 PM | #353 | |
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09-29-2021, 08:09 PM | #354 |
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10-04-2021, 05:21 PM | #356 |
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Interesting observations:
-Danna looks like a flat out steal. He’s been solid in run defense and has 3 sacks in 4 games -Sneed looks like a legit top 10 corner -Humphrey and Smith are legit top 10 players at their positions by analytics and film. Fletcher Cox is a top 3 interior rusher and got his ass kicked by Trey Smith yesterday |
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10-11-2021, 07:16 AM | #357 |
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Who deserves blame for this dogshit defense? Veach, Andy, Spags? All of them? Outside of Sneed (who got burned last night) Brett’s picks on the defensive side haven’t panned out (although I think Bolton and Gay could develop into nice players).
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10-11-2021, 07:27 AM | #358 |
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Anyone ready to admit that Veach might be a problem yet?
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10-11-2021, 07:30 AM | #359 |
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