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Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs
The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.
1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster. 2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add. 3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing. 4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster. 5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have. 6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.) If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 25 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. See the examples at the bottom of the post. 6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp. (Note: this chart was updated in 2022.). If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft. 7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players. Original post: You can ignore this now.
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Added Rules and Reminders: 1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted. 2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in. 3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 25 percent. For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 259 points. The 10th pick is normally 369 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*369, or 424 points. So you would need to come up with another 165 points to make the deal (424-259) For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 259 points, but in this game it will be worth 25 percent less, or 194 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 142 points, so you can get 52 points back from the other team. (Remember that you cannot pick up more than two extra picks in the trade, so consider your math carefully.) You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 52 points in the above example from a third team.) Last edited by Rain Man; 04-25-2024 at 11:30 AM.. |
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WOOT! My 7B pick for 2012 is a starter already. For the Bengals, but still.
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My offense is actually looking pretty good. I may have to replace Tony G and I could use a fourth WR, but overall my offense is pretty decent.
My special teams is good, so no problem there. On defense, my linebackers are now pretty decent with the emergence of Zach Brown. They're good. However, I need a free safety, a #2 cornerback, and nickel back, and my defensive line is a disaster. I'm debating whether I'll get another QB with my 1st pick or not. I may just go all defensive line and defensive backs in this draft. Sheesh. Quote:
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I had a good, good draft, putting new starters in areas of need.
Kendall Wright in the first looks like a strong starter alongside Bowe. Zach Brown in the second got 5.5 sacks and 3 ints as a rookie and claimed a starting job for me at OLB. Russell Wilson in the third gives me a QB. Alphonso Dennard in the seventh got half a dozen starts and three interceptions, which may be filling my hole at #2 CB. I think my offense is pretty darn good now, and I've got four solid linebacker starters. My defensive line is the thing that I can't solve at the moment, along with free safety. |
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Really, Russell Wilson may be "checkmate" on this whole deal for awhile. I'll most likely be going with Geno this year, maybe Tyler depending on where they each land. But damn. Well played. Not even sure if there is a point to posting a poll in the Lounge this year.
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The more interesting poll, which I'm considering this year, is a "did these teams show better drafting than Pioli" poll. It'd be kind of interesting, but we might all benefit from some intense dislike of anything Pioli. I'm really not sure if I'll ride the Wilson ship or if I'll draft Geno anyway. I figure it can't hurt to have depth at that position. |
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Looking forward to keeping this rolling and watching it continue to evolve. |
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Ok I liked this ill base on what I thought last year I'll be honest the only two picks I'll change are Wilson and burfict in seventh. I still need to find my roster but lets do this again this year.
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How about this? Take your last roster, and from there you can add the Chiefs' drafts and free agents until you get caught up. I think that's the fair way to go, and now you can start again with the upcoming draft. Wazu and patteeu, does that seem fair? |
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Cool.
I had another thought about stuff as we get ready to go into the draft. I don't think this affects anybody yet, so it's a good time to decide it. If we draft a player from a team other than the Chiefs, what do we do if they leave their team via free agency? We remove Chiefs who leave via free agency, so it seems fair to do it to others. For example, I have CJ Spiller. If he moves from his team via free agency, it seems like I should lose him, too. However, it may be a hassle to do that unless we have people do it on their own teams via the honor system. I'm not sure there's a great way to do it because I can't really track every player as our rosters diverge. Should we remove them ourselves for our own teams, or just leave them be? I also recognize that we have an inherent disadvantage in not being able to sign our own free agents, so perhaps the advantage of keeping our drafted free agents merely offsets this disadvantage. (I'm rationalizing, of course.) |
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As prep for the draft, changes to everyone's rosters so far due to free agency are as follows. Lots of changes this offseason.
Trades Option to trade a 2nd this year and a future pick for QB Alex Smith. Prior to the draft, report whether you accept or reject this trade. These players were all cut, but you have the option to keep them. release OT Eric Winston release WR Steve Breaston release TE Kevin Boss release TE Steve Maneri release QB Matt Cassel release K Matt Szymanski release OLB Andy Studebaker release OG Rich Ranglin You can add these players to your training camp roster for the upcoming season. sign CB Dunta Robinson $15m/3 years sign S Hasain Abdullah sign WR Mardy Gilyard sign DT Marcus Dixon sign TE Kevin Brock sign TE Anthony Fasano 4 years sign QB Chase Daniel 3 years sign DE Mike DeVito $12.6m/3 years sign WR Donnie Avery 3 years sign CB Sean Smith $18m/3 years ($11m guaranteed) sign OT/OG Geoff Schwartz sign FB Ryan D'Imperio sign LB Chad Kilgore sign LB Frank Zombo sign OL Tommie Draheim Last edited by Rain Man; 04-07-2013 at 11:47 PM.. |
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One note on released Chiefs players - if we draft somebody that the Chiefs also draft, do we at least get to keep them regardless of whether or not the Chiefs do? I don't think it's come up yet, but just thinking. Seems like we should be able to.
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Honestly, I'd prefer to have free agent losses on all sides, but it'll just be a pain to track so I'm fine to no longer lose free agents. It might give us a bit of a net advantage, but probably not much when you consider that we can't use free agency to fill our own gaps. So henceforth, no free agent losses unless it's a Chief who was on the team prior to 2009. Oh, wait. Are you thinking about cuts, too, e.g., Eric Winston? |
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