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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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05-18-2022, 10:39 AM | #33181 | |
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Again, through pretty much every study done on this, the effectiveness of the PA game gets extremely marginal returns past about 12-14 carries/gm. You run the ball a dozen times and it's going to be enough to make the PA game effective. You run it 22 times and it may be a LITTLE more effective, but it will be more than off-set by the 8 additional pass plays at 8 yards a snap you left on the table to take 4.2 YPC in the running game. We don't need to run more. We need to run better. We need to lean into the strengths of how this OL works and how we can run the football. It's about run game efficiency rather than volume. And CEH (or Jones) just aren't dynamic enough to move that efficiency needle all that much. |
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05-18-2022, 10:41 AM | #33182 | |
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Asking them to actually meaningfully improve the run game is a fools errand, IMO. They're guys who will be exclusively products of how they're used and the OL in front of them. So again, quit the outside zone shit and get those RPOs down to nothing but the occasional tendency breakers. |
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05-18-2022, 10:42 AM | #33183 | |
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My expectations aren’t more than possibly being above average, but I want to see what a healthy CEH and RoJo can do behind arguably the best OL in football. And I agree that we need to just change our approach as well. |
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05-18-2022, 10:52 AM | #33184 | |
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I mean look at Pacheco. That guys a physical marvel. Went 7th round. Because these guys are ALL freaks. They're all guys who can make people look bad on occasion. The true difference makers just show those 'flashes' far more often and in far more varied circumstances. CEH needs a seem to open and a LB to be a little hesitant so he can press the gap and then throw that little shimmy in there to undress the guy and teleport for another 8-10 yards. But that's it. That's the only way he shows a 'flash'. RoJo needs to be able to hit a gap at full speed and with his shoulders square. That's how he'll 'flash'. But a RB who can truly make a difference can flash in either scenario. Or on the edge. Or in a scrum situation. They can show out in different ways so they show out more often. I'm done caring about 'flashes' with RBs. Any one of them can look amazing from time to time. That's what makes them JAGS. If they couldn't, they'd be grocery baggers. Or, as tha virus says, Bums. The difference between a good QB and a bad QB isn't their best throws but rather their worst. The difference between a good pitcher and a bad one isn't how much depth they get on their curveball, it's how often they hang it. You look at average break on curves and changes and stuff and for bad pitchers you'll see bad break numbers. But it isn't because they threw 100 curveballs with no depth. It's because they threw 25 that were as good as anything Kershaw can throw, 25 mediocre ones and 50 piles of trash. So when the numbers added up his 'average' curveball had very little movement. But that's not demonstrative of how the pitch actually behaves. Just as is the case with JAG RBs who 'show flashes'. I just don't care about the moment the stars align for them right before they go back to ticking off 2 yards/carry. |
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05-18-2022, 11:58 AM | #33185 | |
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I know the lil chiefy in you won't let you admit it, but he's mid af. Just like Clyde. |
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05-18-2022, 12:00 PM | #33186 | ||
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05-18-2022, 12:04 PM | #33187 | |
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I remember watching a game of what was suppose to be Mahomes' worst. I thought to myself, "If that's his worst, you better draft this kid". |
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05-18-2022, 12:07 PM | #33188 | |
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This is going to be the breakout year for Darwin Thompson!!! I can feel it!!!!! |
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05-18-2022, 01:53 PM | #33189 |
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Rojo isn't a bum he's a serviceable RB which is basically as good as it gets if you don't have one of like five specific running backs
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05-18-2022, 01:57 PM | #33190 |
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05-18-2022, 02:14 PM | #33191 |
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RoJo is at least fast and won't get closed on in wide open gaps like CEH. That's all we need right now.
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05-18-2022, 02:44 PM | #33192 |
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05-18-2022, 02:55 PM | #33193 |
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05-18-2022, 02:57 PM | #33194 |
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05-18-2022, 02:58 PM | #33195 | |
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If the best thing you can say about a guy is he's "serviceable" then that means he's a bum. If you're serviceable it basically means you need to be replaced as soon as it's feasible to do so, which the Buccaneers did. Combine that with the fact that he was a 2nd round pick.. he's a bum. |
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