***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[sedated]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Allow me to correct myself

#1 High Blood Pressure
#2 Obesity
#3 Diabetes

Is there a source for this? I haven't seen a ranking or a breakdown by underlying condition. In fact #1 seems to be age.

[Rain Man]

I'm intrigued by the things I've read about Vitamin D deficiency being linked to fatalities. Is Vitamin D deficiency a cause, and the vulnerable populations are folks who don't get outside much (obese, diabetic, aged), or are those the reasons and Vitamin D deficiency just goes along with them?

[Indian Chief]

Vitamin D might be a tough one to pin down because nearly 50% of the population is deficient in it, even more so when you break down into certain segments of the population.

[TLO]

Can't you get enough vitamin D by just sitting in the sun for 30 minutes a day?

[limested]

Originally Posted by TLO

Can't you get enough vitamin D by just sitting in the sun for 30 minutes a day?

Not if you are slathering on sunscreen.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by limested

Not if you are slathering on sunscreen.

Or if you seldom go outside.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

Vitamin D might be a tough one to pin down because nearly 50% of the population is deficient in it, even more so when you break down into certain segments of the population.

Yeah, it seems like there's a lot of confusing interactions with it. Part of the reason I find it interesting is that I read something about the 1918 influenza where patients who were kept outside tended to do better, and then the findings on this go-around seem to point at Vitamin D being related.

[Chief Pagan]

Vitamin D from sunlight is one theory, among many, for why the common flu is so seasonal.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Can't you get enough vitamin D by just sitting in the sun for 30 minutes a day?

How Much Time in the Sun Do You Need for Vitamin D?
https://health.usnews.com/wellness/a...-for-vitamin-d

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by limested

Not if you are slathering on sunscreen.

Allow 10 to 15 minutes or so of unprotected sun exposure to your arms, legs, abdomen and back. After that, follow up with good sun protection, like a 30-SPF or higher sunblock.
Choose the right time of day. "If your shadow is longer than your body height, you can't make any vitamin D," Holick says. Between 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. is the usual window for significant sun exposure, he says. He's helped develop the dminder app, which uses multiple factors – time of day, location and skin type – to recommend optimal sun exposure and provide sun-safety warnings.

[MOhillbilly]

Lard is high in vitamin d.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Vitamin D from sunlight is one theory, among many, for why the common flu is so seasonal.

Yes, it is harder to get Vit D from the sun in the winter

[petegz28]

Vitamin D: How to Avoid a Deficiency This Winter

Smart food choices: While foods containing vitamin D aren’t plentiful, there are some options you can try. Consuming vitamin D rich foods like canned salmon, milk, tuna, and mushrooms will help. Vitamin D enriched foods such as soy, yogurt, cereal, orange juice, and eggs are easy to work into your diet as well.
Sun exposure: Getting a limited amount of sun exposure might also help. Check with your physician to see how much sunlight is safe. A common recommendation is about 20 minutes of sun several times a week. Incorporate this sun exposure into your day in small amounts when it’s too cold to stay outside for long.
Vitamin D supplements: Nutritionists will tell you that it’s best to get your essential vitamins and nutrients from healthy food choices. But in the case of vitamin D, that might not be possible. If you are concerned your vitamin D levels might be low, talk with your physician and ask for a simple blood test to check. If you are deficient, your doctor will either order a prescription dose of vitamin D or recommend an over-the-counter supplement.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Allow me to correct myself

#1 High Blood Pressure
#2 Obesity
#3 Diabetes

Originally Posted by sedated

Is there a source for this? I haven't seen a ranking or a breakdown by underlying condition. In fact #1 seems to be age.

Can you address this one Pete?

[srvy]

Originally Posted by jdubya

There I was in a Corona thread and a fitness thread broke out