***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

I’m extremely tempted to start a new Covid thread for news, studies, and trial posts only. That way when you want know why the stock market is rising like a rocket (up 3%) you can go there and see the vaccine news from Moderna instead of a debate on the merits of ****ing planet fitness.

So, you noticed the stock market went up, but apparently not from any news source or else you would already have your answer.... yet, not knowing it was related to Covid, you would come here to the Covid thread looking for stock market information? Or so you could possibly find something like vaccine news and guess that's why the stock market is up?

Did you hit up other threads that could loosely be tied to the stock market to see if there were reasons in those threads?

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I used to be a gym rat. I never understood the going to gym to socialize. Or the people that needed their friends to be around to motivate them to work out. I found that when I did go with friends I didn't go at it as hard. I always went by myself and was laser focused. Was a pain to find someone to spot but other than that gym is for working out not socializing.

I ****ing love pizza. California Pizza Kitchen, though. Legit.

CPK is NOT real pizza. It definitely falls in the "quiche" category.

[Donger]

Does Minsky's still make their BBQ pizza? God, I loved that...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Does Minsky's still make their BBQ pizza? God, I loved that...

Yes and it is very good but I have to say, as much as it pains me, Papa John's BBQ Chicken & Bacon pizza is ****ing awesome.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes and it is very good but I have to say, as much as it pains me, Papa John's BBQ Chicken & Bacon pizza is ****ing awesome.

I can't stand Papa John's... Dominio's Pan Pizza w BBQ sauce. cheddar and white american cheese topped w Japolenos and bacon is amazing. Nice spicy pizza.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by jdubya

CPK is NOT real pizza. It definitely falls in the "quiche" category.

Well, for homemade pizza it's damn good. Crispy thin crust FTW.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

So, you noticed the stock market went up, but apparently not from any news source or else you would already have your answer.... yet, not knowing it was related to Covid, you would come here to the Covid thread looking for stock market information? Or so you could possibly find something like vaccine news and guess that's why the stock market is up?

Did you hit up other threads that could loosely be tied to the stock market to see if there were reasons in those threads?

I apologize for not landing my point clearly. This thread was created for non-political Covid-19 discussion and has been a useful place to visit to see a comprehensive collection of the newest Covid developments, and since Ive visited CP for a decade I like to see the various perspectives of many CP contributors on the Pandemic developments. Lately the thread seems to be primarily a place to talk about the merits of “****ing” Planet Fitness and what not even while there are some big things happening regarding Covid vaccine development; ie the Moderna announcement which seems to be sparking a stock market rally. Yes I can get news anywhere, I just enjoy the CP perspectives, and miss the days when this thread was 99% new Covid developments and Pete arguing about daily case numbers.

[limested]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

I apologize for not landing my point clearly. This thread was created for non-political Covid-19 discussion and has been a useful place to visit to see a comprehensive collection of the newest Covid developments, and since Ive visited CP for a decade I like to see the various perspectives of many CP contributors on the Pandemic developments. Lately the thread seems to be primarily a place to talk about the merits of “****ing” Planet Fitness and what not even while there are some big things happening regarding Covid vaccine development; ie the Moderna announcement which seems to be sparking a stock market rally. Yes I can get news anywhere, I just enjoy the CP perspectives, and miss the days when this thread was 99% new Covid developments and Pete arguing about daily case numbers.

No one is stoping you from creating another thread. If people feel the same as you they will follow and post in it.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Kidd Lex

I apologize for not landing my point clearly. This thread was created for non-political Covid-19 discussion and has been a useful place to visit to see a comprehensive collection of the newest Covid developments, and since Ive visited CP for a decade I like to see the various perspectives of many CP contributors on the Pandemic developments. Lately the thread seems to be primarily a place to talk about the merits of “****ing” Planet Fitness and what not even while there are some big things happening regarding Covid vaccine development; ie the Moderna announcement which seems to be sparking a stock market rally. Yes I can get news anywhere, I just enjoy the CP perspectives, and miss the days when this thread was 99% new Covid developments and Pete arguing about daily case numbers.

It was mentioned before you posted:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ostcount=31503

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I can't stand Papa John's... Dominio's Pan Pizza w BBQ sauce. cheddar and white american cheese topped w Japolenos and bacon is amazing. Nice spicy pizza.

I haven't had Domino's BBQ pizza in about 20 years. I had Domino's for the first time in about 20 years last year and it SUCKED!

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I haven't had Domino's BBQ pizza in about 20 years. I had Domino's for the first time in about 20 years last year and it SUCKED!

It's not amazing, but I thought they have improved quite a bit since 15 years ago. Don't mess w/ BBQ pizza, though.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Donger

It was mentioned before you posted:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ostcount=31503

I think that's supporting his point: this thread has largely become a place for people to argue. Actual news just seems to get buried and missed unless people are here all the time.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I think that's supporting his point: this thread has largely become a place for people to argue. Actual news just seems to get buried and missed unless people are here all the time.

Well, he should probably spend less unproductive time at Planet Fitness.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by limested

No one is stoping you from creating another thread. If people feel the same as you they will follow and post in it.

True, just seems like a lot of work to make an irreverent point. ;-)

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Donger

Well, he should probably spend less unproductive time at Planet Fitness.

Planet fitness is what they call this place after everyone downs an entire pizza by themself.