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Old 07-22-2021, 11:36 AM  
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:01 PM   #301
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saying a experimental vaccine which was sequenced in two days is better than hundreds of thousands of year of evolution with out immune system......

You literally have no way of knowing.
the mRNA scientific studies and research has been going on for decades.

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When you're vaccinated, it's still your immune system making you immune.
Exactly, that’s the whole point. This mRNA based vaccine just triggers your own natural occurring response to protect yourself from this virus. It’s pretty easy for a layman to understand.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:01 PM   #302
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Again,

Thank you brave Test Subjects, your arguments for the vaccine might be validated one day. But to claim with any certainty they are validated now is nonsense.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:02 PM   #303
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the mRNA scientific studies and research has been going on for decades.

Exactly, that’s the whole point. The mRNA just triggers your own natural occurring response to protect yourself from this virus.
It sure has,

I wonder why they censored the man credited with developing mRNA technology.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:03 PM   #304
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Yeah like I don't know once the data from the Test Subjects is available.
Somehow already having COVID and deciding to wait a little bit on the vaccine makes me a selfish evil prick!
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:03 PM   #305
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Because every time I heard top scientists speak about viral vaccines before these even appeared it was an axiom of immunology that natural immunity was superior to vaccines against viruses.

Vaccines are amazing technology but they are competing with millions of years of evolution that created our immune systems.

The ones that work well stimulate our immune system to recognize and respond without the danger of the natural infection. But they are still and always have been inferior. I don't need to be a virologist or immunologist to at least remember these things were pointed out by them.

This vaccination push for those who already had Covid is just a push for more $$$$ for Pharma.



They even changed the scientific definition of "herd immunity" to remove those who had Covid and were now immune!

Vaccines and "our immune systems" go hand in hand. I'm not sure why the push to differentiate the two.

Again, you still have to become infected to become immune and "immune" isn't black and white. There's certain levels based on alot of different factors.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:04 PM   #306
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Guy is blue is annoying, regardless of points. Guy on the left is worth listening too. (hate that they used term red pill)
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Again, you still have to become infected to become immune and "immune" isn't black and white. There's certain levels based on alot of different factors.
Tech not true in other vaccines.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:05 PM   #308
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Tech not true in other vaccines.
I'm referring to natural immunity, not vaccinated.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:07 PM   #309
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Because every time I heard top scientists speak about viral vaccines before these even appeared it was an axiom of immunology that natural immunity was superior to vaccines against viruses.

Vaccines are amazing technology but they are competing with millions of years of evolution that created our immune systems.

The ones that work well stimulate our immune system to recognize and respond without the danger of the natural infection. But they are still and always have been inferior. I don't need to be a virologist or immunologist to at least remember these things were pointed out by them.

This vaccination push for those who already had Covid is just a push for more $$$$ for Pharma.



They even changed the scientific definition of "herd immunity" to remove those who had Covid and were now immune!
I am sure big pharma makes money whether or not you get vaccinated or hospitalized they probably make more if you get hospitalized or need life long meds .
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:09 PM   #310
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I'm referring to natural immunity, not vaccinated.
Mmmm Yeah although asymptomatic while infected, rarely spread the virus and do show immunity in some to most cases. The level of that immunity is open for debate.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:09 PM   #311
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I am sure big pharma makes money whether or not you get vaccinated or hospitalized they probably make more if you get hospitalized or need life long meds .
Well, the Netflix Pharma plan where you get jabbed yearly or every 6 months isn't nothing.

Billions and billions.

I don't plan on needing life-long meds.

No statins or insulin for me.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...id-19-vaccine/

Report: Rick Dennison out as Vikings assistant coach after refusing COVID-19 vaccine

Vikings assistant coach Rick Dennison has reportedly lost his job because he refused to get the COVID-19 vaccine.

Dennison, who had been the Vikings’ offensive line coach/run game coordinator the past two seasons, parted ways with the team, according to Courtney Cronin of ESPN. The report does not specifically call Dennison’s departure a firing, although that’s what it sounds like.

The NFL is requiring Tier 1 staff — the people in closest contact with players, such as coaches and equipment managers — to get vaccinated. Players cannot be forced to get vaccinated. The Vikings are promoting assistant offensive line coach Phil Rauscher to fill Dennison’s position, and adding former Auburn assistant coach Ben Steele to take Rauscher’s position.

Dennison is a 27-year veteran of NFL coaching.
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Old 07-23-2021, 12:29 PM   #313
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Vaccines and "our immune systems" go hand in hand. I'm not sure why the push to differentiate the two.

Again, you still have to become infected to become immune and "immune" isn't black and white. There's certain levels based on alot of different factors.
But as you know the current health authorities in the US are denying natural immunity.

So that is a ? you would have to ask them.
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But as you know the current health authorities in the US are denying natural immunity.

So that is a ? you would have to ask them.
I’d guess that’s because they’d prefer not incentivize people to get sick so they can get immunity that way
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Somehow already having COVID and deciding to wait a little bit on the vaccine makes me a selfish evil prick!
Getting covid would be the least of your concerns if I was in your city
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