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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**Saul Good** · 10-05-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

When I'm saying "based in" I'm referring to big time events ala Championship games and Tournament.

Those things stay in KC with the Big12.

With MU going to the SEC everything is gone in this area.

That's not fair. Someone needs to tell the Big12 that KU is good at basketball. That should to the trick.

Bambi · 10-05-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Enjoy your stay.

Is the mini bar free?

Pants · 10-05-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

25% of the hotel has been burned to the ground, and you've said multiple times that you don't care that only the more expensive rooms get sprinklers.

Everyone gets new sprinklers installed if MU agrees to it. Not that hard to understand, really.

eazyb81 · 10-05-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

There is more to it than that. Granted, he is trying to exert what little influence he may have on the situation.

He will have nothing to gain from playing Mizzou, if the SEC deal goes down, nothing. KU treats WSU the same way, and it is a statewide issue annually.

Oh please, it is all dramatics right now. A lot of ku fans can tip their hat to Mizzou because they can admit they want out of this Zombie Conference too. But the fringe minority feel like they can sit in the corner and scream to make it all go away.

Ku alums will want to still play Mizzou. It is your biggest rivalry by far. It would be silly to be so cruel to your own fans.

BigCatDaddy · 10-05-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Even if the BIG XII fixes its weak links and faulty wiring, Mizzou is leaving a Holiday Inn, and moving up to the Ritz Carlton. Who can blame Mizzou for that?

Because they will never get to the Pent House in the Ritz?

**HemiEd** · 10-05-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

He's been making the same post ever since this whole Conference Armageddon started. Dude is completely oblivious to the fact that KU has no offers. Even if there were offers, though, it would be hard to say "No" to equal sharing and T1T2 rights surrender and commit to the B12.

Yeah, but he is keeps suckling the MU cock more publicly every day. It is getting embarrassing.

I totally agree, on KU's situation, they are on the down cycle in FB (highest revenue sport) and MU has been on a 6 year up cycle.

I just hope like hell that K-State stomps a big mudhole right up the Tigers ass this Saturday. I imagine the rest of the Big 12 will be on the same side of the fence.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-05-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Everyone gets new sprinklers installed if MU agrees to it. Not that hard to understand, really.

Bambi · 10-05-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

25% of the hotel has been burned to the ground, and you've said multiple times that you don't care that only the more expensive rooms get sprinklers.

So you were out there petitioning the Big 12 when every school signed on to unregulated 3rd tier rights when the Big 12 began?

If so then I suppose I have no argument against your stance that MU should leave for the SEC.

I personally enjoy it when a school (Texas) outspends everyone else tenfold and still fields mediocre sports teams.

Bambi · 10-05-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Everyone gets new sprinklers installed if MU agrees to it. Not that hard to understand, really.

I love you Pants.

October 25th!

**Saul Good** · 10-05-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Everyone gets new sprinklers installed if MU agrees to it. Not that hard to understand, really.

That doesn't rebuild the rest of the burned-out shell of a hotel, and the two guests with the quickest access to the emergency exits are still setting off fireworks in the lobby.

**HemiEd** · 10-05-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Oh please, it is all dramatics right now. A lot of ku fans can tip their hat to Mizzou because they can admit they want out of this Zombie Conference too. But the fringe minority feel like they can sit in the corner and scream to make it all go away.

Ku alums will want to still play Mizzou. It is your biggest rivalry by far. It would be silly to be so cruel to your own fans.

I can't expect you to understand, you are a football school.

mnchiefsguy · 10-05-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Because they will never get to the Pent House in the Ritz?

It is not like we ever got to the best room at Holiday Inn either. This is a great opportunity for Mizzou to make a penthouse run...more money, more exposure, and hopefully some better recruits. It will take time and effort, but the chance is there.

|Zach| · 10-05-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

That doesn't rebuild the rest of the burned-out shell of a hotel, and the two guests with the quickest access to the emergency exits are still setting off fireworks in the lobby.

Exactly. The current B12 is just being used as safe place for the LHN to grow.

**Saul Good** · 10-05-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

KU isn't second class to those schools.

They make 2nd in 3rd tier to Texas. Texas has a population like 5 times that of Kansas.

Do none of you guys ever look at how much $$ these schools actually have?

Yes. Your football team is the second-least profitable team of the original 12 teams at $4.3 million in net profit. Meanwhile, Texas has a profit of $65 million.

How close do you think basketball comes to bridging that gap?

Trevo_410 · 10-05-2011, 12:16 PM

You guys ever think that maybe Mizzou got tired of all the shit you've said through this whole thing? It seems like every school except ISU in the big12 has been a part of this group thought Missouri would never have the balls to change conferences...

"What has Missouri won? No-one would care of Missouri left."

"Easily Replaceable."

Something about us getting left out of the big10 last year...

So now that we're on the brink of leaving all this big12 all you guys are kissing our asses -- particularly most of the smaller schools including kU. We're doing what's doing best for us, not for you guys. The only negative about going to the SEC would be losing to the best football teams in the country. That's it.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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Trevo_410 Veteran Trevo_410's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Independence, Missouri	You guys ever think that maybe Mizzou got tired of all the shit you've said through this whole thing? It seems like every school except ISU in the big12 has been a part of this group thought Missouri would never have the balls to change conferences... "What has Missouri won? No-one would care of Missouri left." "Easily Replaceable." Something about us getting left out of the big10 last year... So now that we're on the brink of leaving all this big12 all you guys are kissing our asses -- particularly most of the smaller schools including kU. We're doing what's doing best for us, not for you guys. The only negative about going to the SEC would be losing to the best football teams in the country. That's it.
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