***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

we re-opened partially 2 days ago and you are blaming that on this???

JFC just

Just stop posting in here. It's the same arguments over and over.

Come to the investing thread and give me some current plays.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Just stop posting in here. It's the same arguments over and over.

Come to the investing thread and give me some current plays.

Good to see you too, lew!

If you want a play I would say that if you think the re-opening will go half good then buy this dip. Personally I think with the election coming up and all this Covid shit it's gonna be choppy as **** for a while longer. Be interesting to see what happens this summer though since a lot of people won't be taking vacations like they typically would. Market players might stick around during the summer months.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Don't understand why anyone would predict things closing down again until the fall/winter... KC is at like 10-20% restaurant capacity and many have chosen not to open yet. I know of at least a few states that have complicated phases and stuff towards reopening. Florida's had summer weather for a few weeks now, so has Arizona.

Going to a restaurant with 10 other people in the building isn't much different than walking around Costco.

Not to say being careful is unwarranted, but it'll happen so gradually, I'd be surprised if anything crazy happened, beyond something like a huge indoor concert being scheduled in a city that reopened the day before.

I think we will still see some cluster pop up even if we play it safe. That shouldn't keep us from re-opening the economy. But it wouldn't surprise me if we still see waves of mini-lockdowns. South Korea's about as contained as it gets and all it took was for 1 dude to infect 30 (and probably a lot more) people in one night. We've also yet to see what the legal environment will look like. It's inevitable workers and customers will get infected. There's still a lot of unanswered questions and it seems we're all kind of learning on the fly.

The bright side (if there is one) is that the global pandemic response has learned a ton through trial and error. Everyone's going to make plenty of mistakes. I've said before part of the reason some Asian countries are so far ahead with their response is because they were much closer to SARS and MERS than we were.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

we re-opened partially 2 days ago and you are blaming that on this???

JFC just

I didnt blame reopening on the current pockets you dumb****. Opening isnt going to make them any better though and again you arent being paid to deny this however for some odd reason you keep doing so. From someone like Fauci, to Hamas, to Kansas Citys leading health director have ALL pretty much said the same thing.

Yet you continue to post the same nonsense without a ****ing clue and pretend to be wrong over and over again.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I didnt blame reopening on the current pockets you dumb****. Opening isnt going to make them any better though and again you arent being paid to deny this however for some odd reason you keep doing so. From someone like Fauci, to Hamas, to Kansas Citys leading health director have ALL pretty much said the same thing.

Yet you continue to post the same nonsense without a ****ing clue and pretend to be wrong over and over again.

life goes on.

with or without you.

you can't stop that.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by stevieray

life goes on.

with or without you.

you can't stop that.

All we are is dust in the wind.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

All we are is dust in the wind.

And I can't live with or without you.

[007]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

And I can't live with or without you.

But don't stop believing

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by 007

But don't stop believing

One bourbon one scotch one beer

[Baby Lee]

Tommy used to work on the docks. . .

[KCUnited]

Her placenta falls to the floor

[notorious]

She’s got a silk dress and healthy breasts that bounce

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Originally Posted by notorious

She’s got a silk dress and healthy breasts that bounce

Scar tissue I wish you saw

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Her placenta falls to the floor

Love that song but that line....

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Love that song but that line....

Feel like they could've used a Primus-like bass slap at the end of that line.

Her placenta falls to the floor...THUUUUUMMMPP!!