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Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
IT ****ING HAPPENED
OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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#30181 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Nov 2018
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As a QB PROSPECT Lawrence is way better than Mahomes. I say as a prospect. It’s all about the right system and the players that surround you. Coming out of college people knew Mahomes could play but his footwork and decision making were major concerns.
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Generational Player
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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Lawrence. His arm strength is very good but not elite like Mahomes. His off-platform throws are good but nothing like Mahomes. He doesn't see the field as well. He doesn't throw with anticipation. He doesn't handle pressure in the pocket like Mahomes. Lawrence might be faster than Mahomes but he is not a wow athlete. Reasons the Dinosaurs are sold on Lawrence: 5 star recruit out of HS (They really are into this stuff) WINNER Character (Of course Mahomes had great character too but we never heard about it) Tall As I said months ago Lawrence is a more athletic Jared Goff. I have Wilson as QB 1 this year. |
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#30183 |
Needs more middle fingers
Join Date: Mar 2005
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#30184 |
Most Valuable Villain
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Lawrence did what he did surrounded by Top 10 talent.
Mahomes did what he did surrounded by UDFA talent. |
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#30185 |
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The Boom Boom Room
Join Date: Aug 2000
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#30187 |
Generational Player
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#30188 |
You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I don't really follow college ball so I'm a little out of my element, but I don't see where Mahomo is wrong. If you're gauging them purely as prospects coming out of NCAA, how is Lawrence not superior?
Lawrence could have been the #1 pick for the last three years. Mahomes went at 10 and that was kind of shocking. That alone tells me who the better prospect is. |
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#30189 |
Most Valuable Villain
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Would Lawrence be rated as highly if he played for a team like Washington State? Or is he like Deshaun Watson? Rated high because he “just wins”.
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Needs more middle fingers
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
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And a player's draft position tells you who the better prospect is? You're ****ing with me, right? Yeah. You're ****ing with me. |
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Generational Player
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
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No elite talent, this isn't that exciting. 2018 is so much better. And 2017 will have 2 QB's that are top 5 in the NFL. The same people who hated Mahomes and Watson as prospects are saying Lawrence is better. Don't believe them. Lawrence could have been the #1 pick for the last three years. I think Lawrence will go 1st in 2021 but Wilson is better. Burrow last year was a better prospect than any QB in 2021 draft. |
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
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His reasoning? Mac Jones was the best downfield thrower (20+ yards) by a wide margin due to his accuracy. JJ stated that Lawrence and all of the other top rated QB's look at the ball when throwing downfield, whereas Mac Jones looks at his receiver, which makes him far more accurate. He stated that many QB's he worked with in the past, including Warren Moon, would overshoot their receivers by a foot or two because they weren't focused on the receiver and once he helped them to make that adjustment, their careers skyrocketed. It's an interesting take and I'll be curious as to the success of Mac Jones vs. the other 1st round QB's in the 2021 draft. |
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You gotta kill a few people
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Arians loved Mahomes so much that he neglected to trade up just a handful of spots to take him? Instead he elected to enter the season with Gabbert, Stanton and Matt Barkley at QB? Same with Payton; he only needed to jump up a few spots. Quote:
Lawrence is probably the best QB prospect since Andrew Luck. And Luck was the best QB prospect we'd seen in probably at least 10 years prior. Mahomes obviously panned out well, but we're talking about them solely as prospects. Quote:
If you went back in time and took 2017 Patrick Mahomes and put him in this 2021 draft, Lawrence would still go #1. |
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Time Keeps On Slipping
Join Date: Sep 2004
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