Chiefs looking for a pass rusher?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think the Vet Rusher would be a hindrance to that as much as it woudl be keeping me from having to watch Malik herring

And if that's the case, the Vet Rusher that you're gonna get is gonna be the guy that doesn't have a better option.

Ogbah evidently wasn't that guy.

If you're looking at a stop-gap pass rusher to be the guy that pushes your 5th DE off the roster, that guy's gonna have to be someone who doesn't think he has a better path to snaps somewhere else.

Rasheem Green might be kinda interesting and seems to fit a Spags mold well.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And if that's the case, the Vet Rusher that you're gonna get is gonna be the guy that doesn't have a better option.

Ogbah evidently wasn't that guy.

If you're looking at a stop-gap pass rusher to be the guy that pushes your 5th DE off the roster, that guy's gonna have to be someone who doesn't think he has a better path to snaps somewhere else.

Rasheem Green might be kinda interesting and seems to fit a Spags mold well.

I'd say all the FA pass rushers at this point are looking at that anywhere though, no?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'd say all the FA pass rushers at this point are looking at that anywhere though, no?

Most, certainly.

Just evidently not Ogbah.

I'd be most intrigued by Carl Lawson, I think. I'd need to know more about what happened in 2023 but in 2022 he was still a viable starting caliber DE and at 29 he may still have another season or two left in the tank.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I like the idea of giving FAU a shot at it early in the season while Omenihu is getting healthy.

I think we need to see what we have here and if we shelf him again behind someone like Dana, we're now 2 years into his rookie deal without any real understanding of what he can be. That puts us up against it a bit in terms of team-building as the 2025 draft roles around.

We need some clarity on what he could be. Now's a great time to start getting that.

Agree. It's yet another thing the Chiefs have done an amazing job at the past 5 years or so. Get a player on the field and see what he can/cannot do and go from there. We won a SB with rookies all over the place, especially on defense; the Chiefs are certainly going to give FAU the chance he deserves as that's a key part of what allows us to remain consistently good.

[O.city]

Lawson would be my choice as well. He kinda brings something we don't have but to be fair, that doesn't seem like something they value.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Lawson would be my choice as well. He kinda brings something we don't have but to be fair, that doesn't seem like something they value.

Expound.

I mean they drafted Karlaftis AND FAU. Those guys are clearly very different players. They paid for Danna, who represents something of a middle ground between the two.

It seems at this point, perhaps through Cullen's influence, they value just about any type of player that can contribute. Styles are less dispositive for them (or perhaps they're leaning into complementary skill sets).

I mean, unless your name is Clowney. Then they have no use for you at all.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Expound.

I mean they drafted Karlaftis AND FAU. Those guys are clearly very different players. They paid for Danna, who represents something of a middle ground between the two.

It seems at this point, perhaps through Cullen's influence, they value just about any type of player that can contribute. Styles are less dispositive for them (or perhaps they're leaning into complementary skill sets).

I mean, unless your name is Clowney. Then they have no use for you at all.

Just a pure speed guy.

They've never seemed to really be interested in that.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Just a pure speed guy.

They've never seemed to really be interested in that.

FAU is absolutely a guy who's going to be a speed rusher or a non-factor. BJ Thompson was certainly that sort of acquisition as well.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

FAU is absolutely a guy who's going to be a speed rusher or a non-factor. BJ Thompson was certainly that sort of acquisition as well.

True.

Although the hope is he ends up more than just that.

[DJ's left nut]

And really, it applies pretty much everywhere at this point, doesn't it?

WR -- They drafted Rice, Worthy and Moore - three guys who couldn't be much different stylistically. At CB they drafted McDuffie and Williams/Watson. At S they've drafted Cook and Conner. At LB they drafted Bolton and Gay while paying for Tranquill.

I think we're starting to get beyond type for this team. If they think you can play, they'll bring you in and adapt to your skill set. They won't always be right (Moore, for instance, can't play), but they don't seem married to a specific decision lens at this point.

[notorious]

God this team was/is loaded.

[TinyEvel]

Furious George will become Jared Allen without the alcoholism.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TinyEvel

Furious George will become Jared Allen without the alcoholism.

That's quite the bar.

Didn't Allen recently get elected to the Hall? Or was at least a finalist? If he didn't get in this year, he still has a heck of a shot going forward.

[TinyEvel]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's quite the bar.

Didn't Allen recently get elected to the Hall? Or was at least a finalist? If he didn't get in this year, he still has a heck of a shot going forward.

I'm mostly talking big sky, but compare the first two years of JA to Karlaftis and George is only slightly behind JA. Biggest difference is JA had way more solo tackles and George has more partials. JA also has a beast year his 8th season playing for MN he had 22 sacks.

JA has been nominated four times but is NOT in the HoF.