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TripleThreat · 11-13-2019, 06:20 PM

Look at the 49ers and the patriots for simple examples.

The only two players maybe worth the buy on our team is Kelce and hill, but we cannot keep or pay both, especially once we pay Mahomes. There is no way Mahomes will be taking a Tom Brady contract.

Think about it, whoever wins the super bowl typically has an above average defense. Patrick Mahomes will make our weapons look better than they are, therefore all we truly need is a game changer like hill. Let kelce go, take the patriot approach. We need a strong defense that can win us 3 and outs and let the mvp take the field and eat up clock and score touchdowns.

Andy Reid, we do not need to be the colts of Peyton Manning, all we need is Mahomes, hill (for now) and then an above average defense. We will stay competitive every year and actually have a chance at winning the super bowl year after year.

Megatron96 · 11-13-2019, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Can I say no? Like I know what you are saying, I also 100% agree with your post #8. My point being is if we keep Kelce on another contract, pay hill, and then pay Mahomes, how much money do we have left to pay for an O-line to give us help with rushing the ball and protecting our qb? Then after that, how much money do we have left over for our defense? I’m in no way saying Kelce isn’t bad, and won’t be good in a few years, it’s a matter of damage control, is it worth it? And I simply say no. Get a low cost proven veteran (reliable) rookie running backs to run the ball, hill (pay him) Mahomes (pay him) after that, bolster the offensive line and get a defense that can get us through the dance and get us the ball back when we need it most and put it back in Mahomes hands

You just said we don't need a great OL.

And I'm not talking about money; I'm simply explaining how our offense works, how the Patriots offense/defense works, their commonalities, and therefore why your argument ultimately is flawed.

TEX · 11-13-2019, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Kelce 2020 salary: $10.5 million

Hill 2020 salary: $17.6 million

Chiefs 2020 cap room after cutting Sammy Watkins: $38 million

You buffoon

Very well said sir!

T-post Tom · 11-13-2019, 07:00 PM

Kelce is signed for the next two years at a bargain salary. His production is better than most wide receivers. Why you would even consider getting rid of him right now makes no sense.

**RealSNR** · 11-13-2019, 07:01 PM

Don't ditch your great players just because they're expensive. That's not too ****ing hard to figure out.

We're a different team without Hill and Kelce. Period. We'd still have Mahomes, but if he ever went out, man, both of those guys sure do a nice job of making sure the offense doesn't tank.

More importantly, don't ditch players like Hill and Kelce all so you can hand out contracts to more Frank Clarks, Anthony Hitchens, and Tyrann Mathieus. That's the height of idiocy.

Belichick will tell you just as much.

TripleThreat · 11-13-2019, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Kelce 2020 salary: $10.5 million

Hill 2020 salary: $17.6 million

Chiefs 2020 cap room after cutting Sammy Watkins: $38 million

You buffoon

I don’t see Mahomes in there. Also we haven’t signed hill to a long term contract yet....

Chiefshrink · 11-13-2019, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

You want a SB team, you need a really good OL.

I've been banging this drum for 10yrs and really really loudly these last 4yrs.

Hammock Parties · 11-13-2019, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat

I don’t see Mahomes in there. Also we haven’t signed hill to a long term contract yet....

So?

Mahomes isn't going to have a $38 million cap hit next season.

Relax.

Megatron96 · 11-13-2019, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat

I don’t see Mahomes in there. Also we haven’t signed hill to a long term contract yet....

I thought we just signed Tyreek to a new contract? 64 million seems to ring a bell . . .

TripleThreat · 11-13-2019, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

So?

Mahomes isn't going to have a $38 million cap hit next season.

Relax.

The op isn’t about today, it’s about the future and moving forward and how we should handle things in the next few years aka when Kelce is 32 and Mahomes wants his contract.

I know you are good at critical thinking when u want to be. U got this.

TripleThreat · 11-13-2019, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

You just said we don't need a great OL.

And I'm not talking about money; I'm simply explaining how our offense works, how the Patriots offense/defense works, their commonalities, and therefore why your argument ultimately is flawed.

I NEVER said we don’t need a great o line, also we don’t need a great, we need a good/above average o-line...

Again let’s not put words in peoples’ mouths. Go have a drink and come back

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 11-13-2019, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

I thought we just signed Tyreek to a new contract? 64 million seems to ring a bell . . .

He is here for 3 more years after this season but he will get another long term contract when it’s up

Hammock Parties · 11-13-2019, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat

The op isn’t about today, it’s about the future and moving forward and how we should handle things in the next few years aka when Kelce is 32 and Mahomes wants his contract.

I know you are good at critical thinking when u want to be. U got this.

kelce and tyreek are under contract through 2021...reek through 2022

i'm gonna guess kelce isn't going to cost as much at 33 as you think

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 11-13-2019, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

kelce and tyreek are under contract through 2021...reek through 2022

i'm gonna guess kelce isn't going to cost as much at 33 as you think

Probably 10 mil a year

TripleThreat · 11-13-2019, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

kelce and tyreek are under contract through 2021...reek through 2022

i'm gonna guess kelce isn't going to cost as much at 33 as you think

Oh ok, I didn’t realize that. Still what do you think moving forward? I still feel we should focus more on Mahomes/hill for the next 10years, and then focus on o-line and defense most of all after that... obviously the best course to winning a bowl is drafting correctly.

Chiefshrink · 11-13-2019, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

He is here for 3 more years after this season but he will get another long term contract when it’s up

And let's hope he keeps his speed well into his mid to maybe late 30's like Darrell Green did. That guy was still a 4.3 guy well into his mid-thirties. Imagine TH staying 4.2 to 4.3 into his mid-thirties.

11-13-2019, 06:20 PM
TripleThreat Veteran Join Date: Oct 2013	Patrick Mahomes and a defense is all we need. Look at the 49ers and the patriots for simple examples. The only two players maybe worth the buy on our team is Kelce and hill, but we cannot keep or pay both, especially once we pay Mahomes. There is no way Mahomes will be taking a Tom Brady contract. Think about it, whoever wins the super bowl typically has an above average defense. Patrick Mahomes will make our weapons look better than they are, therefore all we truly need is a game changer like hill. Let kelce go, take the patriot approach. We need a strong defense that can win us 3 and outs and let the mvp take the field and eat up clock and score touchdowns. Andy Reid, we do not need to be the colts of Peyton Manning, all we need is Mahomes, hill (for now) and then an above average defense. We will stay competitive every year and actually have a chance at winning the super bowl year after year.
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T-post Tom Threepeat! T-post Tom's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland	Kelce is signed for the next two years at a bargain salary. His production is better than most wide receivers. Why you would even consider getting rid of him right now makes no sense. Last edited by T-post Tom; 11-13-2019 at 07:12 PM..
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11-13-2019, 07:01 PM	#19
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! RealSNR's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR	Don't ditch your great players just because they're expensive. That's not too ****ing hard to figure out. We're a different team without Hill and Kelce. Period. We'd still have Mahomes, but if he ever went out, man, both of those guys sure do a nice job of making sure the offense doesn't tank. More importantly, don't ditch players like Hill and Kelce all so you can hand out contracts to more Frank Clarks, Anthony Hitchens, and Tyrann Mathieus. That's the height of idiocy. Belichick will tell you just as much.
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