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eDave · 07-31-2018, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

BECAUSE WE CAN'T ****ING AFFORD IT

Why's that?

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and improve your life.

**MahiMike** · 07-21-2020, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

BECAUSE WE CAN'T ****ING AFFORD IT

What, you don't like 55% taxes? Buddy of mine just escaped CA. Coming back to FL.

Don't get me wrong. I agree w/Rainman about how beautiful it is out west. From what I understand most of the conservatives live away from the beach and CA actually has the most conservative towns by state.

But those taxes though...

**Rain Man** · 07-21-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

What, you don't like 55% taxes? Buddy of mine just escaped CA. Coming back to FL.

Don't get me wrong. I agree w/Rainman about how beautiful it is out west. From what I understand most of the conservatives live away from the beach and CA actually has the most conservative towns by state.

But those taxes though...

I'm trying to figure out Florida. No income tax, and my model includes adjustments for property tax and sales tax. And yet Florida still shines like a low-tax beacon for retirement finances.

How do they get money to run the government? They're getting revenue from somewhere and I'm trying to figure out if I'm missing something in my model.

**BigRedChief** · 07-31-2018, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I really don't understand why the entire US population doesn't live in Colorado and southern California.

I’ve lived in enough cold places in my life. Not interested in cold enviotments anymore. It gets below 60, I’m cold now.

So Cal weather is obviously perfect. But, even if I won the lottery and could afford to buy a house in SoCal, I wouldn’t live there.

TripleThreat · 07-11-2020, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I really don't understand why the entire US population doesn't live in Colorado and southern California.

Northern California has a completely different range of people compared to LA. Having lived in both areas, I can tell you that nor cal seems more laid back and accepting than So cal. So cal very clicky, judgy, etc (imo)

Why Not? · 07-31-2018, 04:50 PM

If(when?)I move, it would be back to KC. Then, one day, to Maui to live out my days.

**Rain Man** · 07-31-2018, 04:57 PM

I'm not interested in the tropics, other than Hawaii. Too hot. So no Brazil, Philippines, Caribbean, etc. Plus, all of the Caribbean islands I've been to have been rather dumpy in terms of infrastructure.

No place with lots of corruption.

No place in the eastern USA. I love the western landscape and culture. If I'm in America, I'll be in the west.

No place where the Americans have weird accents. Give me a prime-time television accent, please.

No third world countries where I get hassled on the street by people trying to sell me stuff. On my recent freighter journey, I was physically grabbed by people on the street in both Hong Kong and Vietnam, trying to stop me to give me their sales pitch. Any country where people do that can go to h-e-double-toothpicks.

I could live in a country where English isn't the main language, as long as it's widely spoken. I'm too old to learn a new language.

With those rules in place, here are my top ten places to live on this particular summer day, taking into account general cost of living.

1. Denver. Hey, I like it. It's ideal in a lot of respects.
2. A beach city in the LA area, e.g., Laguna Beach. Small-town living in a major metro area.
3. Juneau or Kodiak in Alaska. Just because it's gorgeous. My wife would veto this, but I would vote for it.
4. Paris, France. I'd deal with the language just to live there.
5. Some place in Utah or western Colorado near the cool parks and rocks.
6. The central coast of California, perhaps.
7. Hawaii, though I'd worry that I'd miss the seasons.
8. Maybe Santa Fe.
9. I'm running out of options. Sydney? Sydney's nice, but it's expensive.
10. Maybe Toronto or Quebec City?

I really liked Japan when I was there, but realistically I wouldn't live there. Cambodia was intriguing, because you could get services there and it was still cheap, but it was really hot. I could probably do London or Scotland.

Edit: ideally, I'd be a vagabond and move to different places for six months at a time. I could really enjoy that type of existence.

KurtCobain · 07-10-2020, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm not interested in the tropics, other than Hawaii. Too hot. So no Brazil, Philippines, Caribbean, etc. Plus, all of the Caribbean islands I've been to have been rather dumpy in terms of infrastructure.

No place with lots of corruption.

No place in the eastern USA. I love the western landscape and culture. If I'm in America, I'll be in the west.

No place where the Americans have weird accents. Give me a prime-time television accent, please.

No third world countries where I get hassled on the street by people trying to sell me stuff. On my recent freighter journey, I was physically grabbed by people on the street in both Hong Kong and Vietnam, trying to stop me to give me their sales pitch. Any country where people do that can go to h-e-double-toothpicks.

I could live in a country where English isn't the main language, as long as it's widely spoken. I'm too old to learn a new language.

With those rules in place, here are my top ten places to live on this particular summer day, taking into account general cost of living.

1. Denver. Hey, I like it. It's ideal in a lot of respects.
2. A beach city in the LA area, e.g., Laguna Beach. Small-town living in a major metro area.
3. Juneau or Kodiak in Alaska. Just because it's gorgeous. My wife would veto this, but I would vote for it.
4. Paris, France. I'd deal with the language just to live there.
5. Some place in Utah or western Colorado near the cool parks and rocks.
6. The central coast of California, perhaps.
7. Hawaii, though I'd worry that I'd miss the seasons.
8. Maybe Santa Fe.
9. I'm running out of options. Sydney? Sydney's nice, but it's expensive.
10. Maybe Toronto or Quebec City?

I really liked Japan when I was there, but realistically I wouldn't live there. Cambodia was intriguing, because you could get services there and it was still cheap, but it was really hot. I could probably do London or Scotland.

Edit: ideally, I'd be a vagabond and move to different places for six months at a time. I could really enjoy that type of existence.

You forgot to add Kansas City to your list.

Eleazar · 07-31-2018, 05:07 PM

Most places, you can't just go and live there because you want to. You have to immigrate legally and it isn't always easy, particularly if you need to work.

That being said I have met people a few times who were moving to Costa Rica. Not sure what the draw is for Costa Rica specifically. One woman I was on a long flight with was moving there from South Africa, she was an Afrikaner and had enough of that country being run into the ground, people's land and homes being taken from them, etc. I think she was wealthy because she mentioned they were taking their nanny and housekeeper too, they also wanted to get out.

I also met another guy in Florida who said he was in the process of moving to CR because the land was cheap and the climate was great. He was of the stripe who thought the US was headed for a calamity or a financial collapse and what all so he didn't want to be here for it.

But I have family in Canada and spend a lot of time there. Quite a few extended family members have either moved to the US or lived in the US for a time. Many of them achieved a personal goal in becoming a dual citizen so they have the option of living in either place.

I've only known one American who settled in Canada, but he was kind of placed there since he's a minister. Mostly the Canadians talk to me about how they want to live here to escape the taxes.

DanT · 07-31-2018, 05:14 PM

Denver seems pretty great, from what I've seen of it. The city and surrounding areas are nice without being ridiculously expensive, there's lot of things to do, and they have a great airport, with lots of flights elsewhere.

Shag · 07-31-2018, 05:26 PM

I moved to San Diego a year and a half ago after living in the midwest my entire life, and I consider this pretty much living in a real-world paradise, assuming that I also have to live somewhere that I can make a good living. I can't see myself moving anywhere else in the US, outside of a mountain city (Denver, SLC), but I'd rather just buy a getaway in the mountains, and have the best of both worlds.

I've traveled the world a good bit, but I do regret not having ever lived outside the US. I'd still like to do so at some point in my life, which would probably mean in retirement at this point. Europe would probably be my first choice - Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Italy, France. AUS/NZ would be fun, but I'd prefer somewhere that didn't speak english as a primary language. Maybe somewhere like Costa Rica.

**Bwana** · 07-31-2018, 05:29 PM

When the time comes, I'm seriously considering retiring in Roatán Honduras.

https://internationalliving.com/coun...atan-honduras/

BIG_DADDY · 07-31-2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

When the time comes, I'm seriously considering retiring in Roatán Honduras.

https://internationalliving.com/coun...atan-honduras/

Looks awesome. Might have to make a stop there when I check out Panama. That's exactly what I am looking for.

**Bwana** · 07-31-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Looks awesome. Might have to make a stop there when I check out Panama. That's exactly what I am looking for.

Yeah the cost of living is very reasonable. I know several people formally from Billings living there now and they love it.

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07-31-2018, 04:50 PM	#7
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07-31-2018, 04:57 PM	#8
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Rain Man's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house	I'm not interested in the tropics, other than Hawaii. Too hot. So no Brazil, Philippines, Caribbean, etc. Plus, all of the Caribbean islands I've been to have been rather dumpy in terms of infrastructure. No place with lots of corruption. No place in the eastern USA. I love the western landscape and culture. If I'm in America, I'll be in the west. No place where the Americans have weird accents. Give me a prime-time television accent, please. No third world countries where I get hassled on the street by people trying to sell me stuff. On my recent freighter journey, I was physically grabbed by people on the street in both Hong Kong and Vietnam, trying to stop me to give me their sales pitch. Any country where people do that can go to h-e-double-toothpicks. I could live in a country where English isn't the main language, as long as it's widely spoken. I'm too old to learn a new language. With those rules in place, here are my top ten places to live on this particular summer day, taking into account general cost of living. 1. Denver. Hey, I like it. It's ideal in a lot of respects. 2. A beach city in the LA area, e.g., Laguna Beach. Small-town living in a major metro area. 3. Juneau or Kodiak in Alaska. Just because it's gorgeous. My wife would veto this, but I would vote for it. 4. Paris, France. I'd deal with the language just to live there. 5. Some place in Utah or western Colorado near the cool parks and rocks. 6. The central coast of California, perhaps. 7. Hawaii, though I'd worry that I'd miss the seasons. 8. Maybe Santa Fe. 9. I'm running out of options. Sydney? Sydney's nice, but it's expensive. 10. Maybe Toronto or Quebec City? I really liked Japan when I was there, but realistically I wouldn't live there. Cambodia was intriguing, because you could get services there and it was still cheap, but it was really hot. I could probably do London or Scotland. Edit: ideally, I'd be a vagabond and move to different places for six months at a time. I could really enjoy that type of existence. Last edited by Rain Man; 07-31-2018 at 05:04 PM..
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Eleazar's Avatar Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA	Most places, you can't just go and live there because you want to. You have to immigrate legally and it isn't always easy, particularly if you need to work. That being said I have met people a few times who were moving to Costa Rica. Not sure what the draw is for Costa Rica specifically. One woman I was on a long flight with was moving there from South Africa, she was an Afrikaner and had enough of that country being run into the ground, people's land and homes being taken from them, etc. I think she was wealthy because she mentioned they were taking their nanny and housekeeper too, they also wanted to get out. I also met another guy in Florida who said he was in the process of moving to CR because the land was cheap and the climate was great. He was of the stripe who thought the US was headed for a calamity or a financial collapse and what all so he didn't want to be here for it. But I have family in Canada and spend a lot of time there. Quite a few extended family members have either moved to the US or lived in the US for a time. Many of them achieved a personal goal in becoming a dual citizen so they have the option of living in either place. I've only known one American who settled in Canada, but he was kind of placed there since he's a minister. Mostly the Canadians talk to me about how they want to live here to escape the taxes.
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07-31-2018, 05:14 PM	#11
DanT Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Davis, CA	Denver seems pretty great, from what I've seen of it. The city and surrounding areas are nice without being ridiculously expensive, there's lot of things to do, and they have a great airport, with lots of flights elsewhere.
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07-31-2018, 05:26 PM	#12
Shag MVP Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Diego, CA	I moved to San Diego a year and a half ago after living in the midwest my entire life, and I consider this pretty much living in a real-world paradise, assuming that I also have to live somewhere that I can make a good living. I can't see myself moving anywhere else in the US, outside of a mountain city (Denver, SLC), but I'd rather just buy a getaway in the mountains, and have the best of both worlds. I've traveled the world a good bit, but I do regret not having ever lived outside the US. I'd still like to do so at some point in my life, which would probably mean in retirement at this point. Europe would probably be my first choice - Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Italy, France. AUS/NZ would be fun, but I'd prefer somewhere that didn't speak english as a primary language. Maybe somewhere like Costa Rica.
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07-31-2018, 05:29 PM	#13
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