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Old 06-30-2022, 08:05 AM   #2
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You're paying $0.0289 per kWh? Holy crap. Does Evergy include demand charges? If so, that might explain the jump.
Since he said he is in Kansas, I'm guessing that's just the cost of fuel used in power generation. More typically around $0.145/kWh on my bills, all in.
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Old 06-29-2022, 02:45 PM   #3
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I think if women would change over to battery operated Dildos the demand for electricity would crash.
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Old 06-29-2022, 02:50 PM   #4
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I have evergy too they suck
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:56 PM   #5
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I have evergy too they suck
We do, we don't have a choice.
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Old 06-29-2022, 02:53 PM   #6
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Southern California (SDGE) charges tiered pricing, depending upon the hours you use energy.

You use a lot during 4pm to 9pm.......you're getting hosed, big time.

AND - because in 2020, CA enacted a law that all new homes had to be built with solar, SDGE cried boo hoo that they werent getting the same profits as usual - so they raised prices.

bastards.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:00 PM   #7
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Southern California (SDGE) charges tiered pricing, depending upon the hours you use energy.

You use a lot during 4pm to 9pm.......you're getting hosed, big time.

AND - because in 2020, CA enacted a law that all new homes had to be built with solar, SDGE cried boo hoo that they werent getting the same profits as usual - so they raised prices.

bastards.
That might be, but I know for a fact that SDG&E has a "program" for low-income folks. If you aren't part of that group, you are helping to pay for their electricity usage.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:59 PM   #8
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That might be, but I know for a fact that SDG&E has a "program" for low-income folks. If you aren't part of that group, you are helping to pay for their electricity usage.
You should qualify then, good for you.
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Old 06-29-2022, 04:12 PM   #9
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You should qualify then, good for you.
Good one, Cleetus.
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Old 06-29-2022, 04:15 PM   #10
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Good one, Neech.
Thanks.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:40 PM   #11
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Southern California (SDGE) charges tiered pricing, depending upon the hours you use energy.

You use a lot during 4pm to 9pm.......you're getting hosed, big time.

AND - because in 2020, CA enacted a law that all new homes had to be built with solar, SDGE cried boo hoo that they werent getting the same profits as usual - so they raised prices.

bastards.
When I got sent an info letter on the new tiered pricing, it said I might even be able to save money by doing things like laundry earlier in the day!

The #@$#@'s never once mentioned that what is entirely driving this is air conditioning use which no, I'm not going to stop running my AC when it's still 100 degrees out.

And on the supply side 4~5 pm is too late for effective solar. Some sort of industrial battery storage ability to shift supply a few hours is sorely needed.

Yes, a few residentials' solar installations have battery packs. But most don't because they add a lot to the cost.
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Old 06-29-2022, 07:06 PM   #12
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When I got sent an info letter on the new tiered pricing, it said I might even be able to save money by doing things like laundry earlier in the day!

The #@$#@'s never once mentioned that what is entirely driving this is air conditioning use which no, I'm not going to stop running my AC when it's still 100 degrees out.

And on the supply side 4~5 pm is too late for effective solar. Some sort of industrial battery storage ability to shift supply a few hours is sorely needed.

Yes, a few residentials' solar installations have battery packs. But most don't because they add a lot to the cost.

we built a home in 2020, and added extra panels cause we knew we were putting in a pool. If I recall correctly, the tesla power wall was another 15-20K........and that only buys you 1-2 extra days of power, were the grid to go down.

It's a racket, and the energy companies are going to get exactly the revenues they want, one way or another.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:40 PM   #13
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Southern California (SDGE) charges tiered pricing, depending upon the hours you use energy.

You use a lot during 4pm to 9pm.......you're getting hosed, big time.

AND - because in 2020, CA enacted a law that all new homes had to be built with solar, SDGE cried boo hoo that they werent getting the same profits as usual - so they raised prices.

bastards.
My local electric provider wanted to charge solar customer for access to the lines to feed power into the grid to help offset the losses from those users not buying electricity directly. They got shut down but I am sure they will try to come up with some other way to get solar customers to still pay them.
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Old 06-29-2022, 02:59 PM   #14
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I'll bring in a copy of the bill. Not only the kw/h, but they some really wonky surcharges. Something like a charge to "produce energy".

These are almost as back to decipher then the old day telephone bills.
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Old 06-29-2022, 03:50 PM   #15
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I have Entergy of Arkansas.
The ECR will increase from $0.00959 per kilowatt hour to $0.01785 per kWh, or from the current rate of just under 1 cent per kWh to 1.8 cents beginning with April 2022 billing.
This was a ridiculous rate increase, almost doubled.
I see what some of you are paying and I am astounded. As much as the change in my rate is atrocious, what some of you all have been and or are paying now is just mind boggling.
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