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Rumor: Creed & Butker getting new deals
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Old Today, 08:41 AM   #16
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Good for them (and us). Now add Bolton and make it so.
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Obviously Butker is a no brainer... arguably one of the most vital parts of the Chiefs dynastic run after Mahomes, Kelce, and Chris Jones.

Only argument against paying big $$$ to Creed is the Chiefs successful track record in drafting/developing centers and does this leave less cap room to keep Bolton.
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Both Creed and Butker made too much sense to not get done this offseason.

Both of those guys can/should/will re-set the market. So just go get it done. There's no sense in acting like you're gonna get some screaming bargain on either of them. We know the market will be there for them if they get to FA and we know what it will be. It'll be the last best deal inflated by increases in the cap.

If this isn't done with those 2 by the start of the regular season, it's because the Chiefs have decided that neither position is worth spending the money on.

Now as for Bolton - that's a guy that they are probably going to have to let get to the market. I think he sees himself in the Fred Warner tier and he's just not demonstrated that.

He's gonna want Tremaine Edmunds money ($18+ million/season) to re-sign without testing the market and I think he's more akin to Oluokun at $10 million/yr. It would be a mistake for him to take, say, 4/$44 million without testing the market to see if he could get 4/$72. So I think that's what you have to let him do.

Let him test the market and see what happens. That just doesn't seem like a deal that's likely to get done.
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Bwillie is about to kill himself once Creed gets paid
Why would he do that? This just keeps his streak of never being right about anything alive and intact.
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The APY of Creed and Butker are going to be what Trey Smith gets next year in FA. Crazy
Yeah, I love Smith. Great attitude, good bit of nasty to have on the line. Smart, physical player and a real nice complementary part on the OL.

But this is a passing team and he's more of a road-grater of an IOL. He's just not quite the right fit. He has more value to a team like the Titans or Ravens or even 49ers than he has to us.

I think we have to mentally prepare for him moving on. It just doesn't make sense for this team to pay $20 million to an OG. Especially when said OG isn't a premier pass protector.
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Yeah, I love Smith. Great attitude, good bit of nasty to have on the line. Smart, physical player and a real nice complementary part on the OL.

But this is a passing team and he's more of a road-grater of an IOL. He's just not quite the right fit. He has more value to a team like the Titans or Ravens or even 49ers than he has to us.

I think we have to mentally prepare for him moving on. It just doesn't make sense for this team to pay $20 million to an OG. Especially when said OG isn't a premier pass protector.
Especially when you've got Thuney on the other side.
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Especially when you've got Thuney on the other side.
Isn’t this the last year of Thuney?
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Especially when you've got Thuney on the other side.
Only have Thuney for 1 more year in all likelihood. And any contract can be made palatable for a season.

But we've said for years that sooner or later Mahomes will have to do more and more as his contract gets more and more expensive. And some of those sacrifices have obviously been made with his weapons. The next may well be on the IOL.

I've actually been pretty shocked by the Chiefs willingness to cut corners at OT given Reid's history with the shell concept. But I feel like this may be similar to how they've handled WR over the next year or two. They'll look for solid veteran stopgaps while dedicating additional resources in the draft to rebuilding the depth chart.

Honestly I still wonder if that's not why they're seemingly opposed to Wanya Morris at LT - I think they really would like to see him take over for Smith at RG. And I think that would be a pretty nice little move for KC.
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Only have Thuney for 1 more year in all likelihood. And any contract can be made palatable for a season.

But we've said for years that sooner or later Mahomes will have to do more and more as his contract gets more and more expensive. And some of those sacrifices have obviously been made with his weapons. The next may well be on the IOL.

I've actually been pretty shocked by the Chiefs willingness to cut corners at OT given Reid's history with the shell concept. But I feel like this may be similar to how they've handled WR over the next year or two. They'll look for solid veteran stopgaps while dedicating additional resources in the draft to rebuilding the depth chart.

Honestly I still wonder if that's not why they're seemingly opposed to Wanya Morris at LT - I think they really would like to see him take over for Smith at RG. And I think that would be a pretty nice little move for KC.
The LT thing though....I don't think they necessarily want to cut corners. They did the OBJ thing, they wanted to pay whats his dick from the 9ers, they paid Taylor, etc.

The biggest key for all this to keep working is....you've gotta just keep nailing drafts. Which hell.....they honestly may have just figured out.
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I'd think Creed is more replaceable that Trey Smith but I want them all back anyway.
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