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[Sassy Squatch]

I wish they'd just kept Sneed.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I wish they'd just kept Sneed.

He’d be great to have of course but I find it very hard to believe that he’s going to maintain that level of play moving forward. He doesn’t practice anymore and I don’t care what he says, that’s not confidence inducing about the knee. Eventually it’s gonna go.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I wish they'd just kept Sneed.

Here's where I am.

Would I rather have Sneed at $18 million or Creed at $18 million?

Gimme Sneed. Buuuuuuut - I have zero concerns about Creed's availability or how he'll age. In fact, I'm bummed out that all we got was 4 years on the Creed deal (my god, if you're giving him that much money, how do you not get a 5th year out of it?).

Creed's gonna age really nicely and he's always available. Sneed is...not. He's not always available and he's not gonna age well.

So if I thought I'd get 2023 Sneed again in 2024, I'd rather have kept him than extend Creed. Ultimately I just don't know that I am.

What I really wish we had was Joey Porter Jr. playing CB2 for us instead of FAU at DE5.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's where I am.

Would I rather have Sneed at $18 million or Creed at $18 million?

Gimme Sneed. Buuuuuuut - I have zero concerns about Creed's availability or how he'll age. In fact, I'm bummed out that all we got was 4 years on the Creed deal (my god, if you're giving him that much money, how do you not get a 5th year out of it?).

Creed's gonna age really nicely and he's always available. Sneed is...not. He's not always available and he's not gonna age well.

So if I thought I'd get 2023 Sneed again in 2024, I'd rather have kept him than extend Creed. Ultimately I just don't know that I am.

What I really wish we had was Joey Porter Jr. playing CB2 for us instead of FAU at DE5.

I think we’d all agree there in hindsight but man one thing that I can’t understand is how bent outta shape some — especially on socials — get about a missed pick like FAU.

If we’re using the same criteria to eval other picks — whether they flash special talent or not — hell, it’s looking like we picked up a long term LT, a game changing WR, and a star in the making at S in this draft class alone.

Can’t win ‘em all, but KC is drafting as good as anybody in the league right now especially when you weight it against draft position.

Thats just the overall organizational synergy coming out. Everything is clicking from scouts to coaches to players, and it’s allowing a lot of guys to reach their ceilings IMO.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I think we’d all agree there in hindsight but man one thing that I can’t understand is how bent outta shape some — especially on socials — get about a missed pick like FAU.

If we’re using the same criteria to eval other picks — whether they flash special talent or not — hell, it’s looking like we picked up a long term LT, a game changing WR, and a star in the making at S in this draft class alone.

Can’t win ‘em all, but KC is drafting as good as anybody in the league right now especially when you weight it against draft position.

Thats just the overall organizational synergy coming out. Everything is clicking from scouts to coaches to players, and it’s allowing a lot of guys to reach their ceilings IMO.

When your qb is making what ours does along with what else we pay, missing on a first round pick is pretty tough.

This regime is good enough to make up for it so it won’t be a huge deal to be honest as they’ll hit on someone else

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

When your qb is making what ours does along with what else we pay, missing on a first round pick is pretty tough.

This regime is good enough to make up for it so it won’t be a huge deal to be honest as they’ll hit on someone else

We make up for a relatively mundane hit rate in the 1st round by pretty pretty damn outstanding in the middle and late rounds. So that's something.

But boy, you'd like to see those 1sts be a little more impactful. McDuffie and GK cure a lot of ills. And Worthy can as well. About a 50% hit rate is...fine.

But it does seem strange that a team that does so well in the middle/back of the draft seems to be pretty ordinary (not bad, just ordinary) with its earliest picks.

It makes me wonder if they don't focus more on need with that first pick than they do everywhere else. And if that doesn't give them a bit of a handicap making those picks.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by O.city

When your qb is making what ours does along with what else we pay, missing on a first round pick is pretty tough.

This regime is good enough to make up for it so it won’t be a huge deal to be honest as they’ll hit on someone else

Shrug. Don’t know what to tell ya, man. Veach is going to have some first round misses.

If that’s “pretty tough” for you you’re going to have to deal with it.

No hitter in baseball bats 1.000 and neither does any GM in sports

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I think we’d all agree there in hindsight but man one thing that I can’t understand is how bent outta shape some — especially on socials — get about a missed pick like FAU.

If we’re using the same criteria to eval other picks — whether they flash special talent or not — hell, it’s looking like we picked up a long term LT, a game changing WR, and a star in the making at S in this draft class alone.

Can’t win ‘em all, but KC is drafting as good as anybody in the league right now especially when you weight it against draft position.

Thats just the overall organizational synergy coming out. Everything is clicking from scouts to coaches to players, and it’s allowing a lot of guys to reach their ceilings IMO.

Spot on, even if FAU busts, it doesn't change how amazing Veach has been. People need to try and remember how things used to be, where pretty much anyone picked beyond the 3rd round was basically camp fodder for this organization.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Spot on, even if FAU busts, it doesn't change how amazing Veach has been. People need to try and remember how things used to be, where pretty much anyone picked beyond the 3rd round was basically camp fodder for this organization.

Oh sure.

But it's like saying "Man, Mahomes really needs to get more loft on his deep passes" early in his career.

Because Mahomes left some meat on the bones with the deep ball early in his career. It wasn't an indictment - merely a curiosity. And he's gotten better with those throws as he's gotten more experience (though his weapons have fallen off a fair bit in the interim prior to this year).

You just wanna figure out the why of it in the hopes you can get that weakness covered off a bit.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's where I am.

Would I rather have Sneed at $18 million or Creed at $18 million?

Gimme Sneed. Buuuuuuut - I have zero concerns about Creed's availability or how he'll age. In fact, I'm bummed out that all we got was 4 years on the Creed deal (my god, if you're giving him that much money, how do you not get a 5th year out of it?).

Creed's gonna age really nicely and he's always available. Sneed is...not. He's not always available and he's not gonna age well.

So if I thought I'd get 2023 Sneed again in 2024, I'd rather have kept him than extend Creed. Ultimately I just don't know that I am.

What I really wish we had was Joey Porter Jr. playing CB2 for us instead of FAU at DE5.

Watson and Williams are passable boundary corners. Watson specifically has always reminded me of Bashaud Breeland. A solid outside corner who isn’t gonna be William Bartee level bad. I would actually extend the kid to a fair deal assuming he wants to stay and his market doesn’t explode (why would it?).

The problem is Watson had labrum surgery this off-season. Yes he looked bad last night, but he’s rusty. That’s a tough injury to come back from. And Nazeeh is coming back from a knee injury.

I think what scares me the most is RB3. If Pacheco gets hurt then that offense changes. Love Steele, but he’s not a starting back, and that’s okay. I want a shifty RB at RB3 who can catch passes out go the backfield.

Even though the backup OL wasn’t good, I think we’re okay with Wanya being OL6 as a G/swing T and Caliendo is okay as OL7 to me while the 2 rookies with promise (Driskell/Nourzad) hit the weight room to prepare for 2025.

And yeah FAU has not looked good, but bringing Danna back really does help. And Omenihu will be back roughly mid season, so I’m not sure I’d go for a DE. If you do Ngakoue is out there.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I wish they'd just kept Sneed.

And let Jones and Kelce not get paid. Creed money was needed. Hell no.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

I wish they'd just kept Sneed.

Sneed getting paid less than Creed Humphrey. I don't get why you would pay Creed and not Sneed. I would let both of them walk but if you choose one its Sneed.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

How do you think this year's roster depth compares to the last several years?

Just off the top of my head I would say the offensive line isn't as deep as it was last year, because I don't think Caliendo is as good as Allegretti, and while I think Kingsley is going to be a stud, as I have stated I would have taken him in the 1st if no receiver was there, and we couldn't trade down, Smith is a steady veteran, and had a proven baseline of performance.


I would also say the secondary is kinda a mystery, too, because Spags has said no one has really stepped up to be that clear number two, plus Cook is coming off of an injury. I feel like Hicks is going to be very good, but he is a rookie and we really don't know how Spags is going to use him yet.

But, as a team, I feel like the roster is deeper. The WR is obviously much better, and although I wish McKinnon was back, I think the RB group might actually be better this year with the addition of Steele.

And, I also think the backup QB got a pretty sizeable upgrade as well.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

I am somewhat concerned about the corner position, I think Josh Williams will be decent as the #2, but nobody else has seemed to step up. Haven't heard much about Nazeeh Johnson which is a little surprising. I'm not sure what the hell happened to Jaylen Watson, but I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't even make the team after what we saw yesterday. Dude looks like he forgot how to play football. Hopefully, it's just rust.

We seem to have found an absolute stud in Hicks at safety, maybe they can work him in as an extra DB instead of a corner in their sub packages. He needs to be on the field as much as possible. I'm not overly concerned about interior o-line, simply because you're looking at them as a group during these games, and that would never be the case during the regular season. You're not going to have to play more than 1 of the backups at a time (hopefully), and they'll be surrounded by studs. It will look much different in the real games.

What we just paid Creed could have gone to Sneed. We'll find out pretty quickly just how valuable LJ was. Hate to say it, but I think we're going to feel it more than people wanted to admit. He was an absolute freaking badass stud, you simply can't replace what he brought to the table.