***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by notorious

Kids are resilient. His dad sounds like he’s got his shit together and that’s far more important than school.

I just feel for them. It's hard enough for me to comprehend this and I'm a (sort of) adult.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by notorious

Same as during normal times. Some kids get ****ed by the parent lottery.

Sure. See post 29670.

*IF* this Toxic Shock/KD news has legs....which I think there are enough cases to prove it does...I wouldn't be so quick to expose kids to this COVID. And that's not because of COVID, but what the COVID could potentially trigger...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by loochy

So what would he have done during the summer?


Also, don't think your kid will be behind...remember that ALL kids had to go through this same thing.

I don't really worry about him being behind, he's gotten all his work done and stuff. My wife was a teacher before kids so she knows here shit.

Just feel for them.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If it’s working, is it not supposed to get better?

Yes, and we have plenty of places which are getting better. Even NYC.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by O.city

I just feel for them. It's hard enough for me to comprehend this and I'm a (sort of) adult.

I actually think it would be easier if I was a kid, playing call of duty online all night, sleeping all day, jerking it to porn....sounds like an easy way to not worry about this.

[phisherman]

Anyone else notice that Mayor Lucas just eliminated occupancy limits in restaurants in KC? Some other stuff about gyms and other businesses were mentioned as well but I didn't read through all of it.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by phisherman

Anyone else notice that Mayor Lucas just eliminated occupancy limits in restaurants in KC? Some other stuff about gyms and other businesses were mentioned as well but I didn't read through all of it.

I'm not surprised he's under an immense amount of pressure.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

I hope so man. My 6 year old missed his last 2 months of kindergarten. He did fine for a while, but the last couple weeks of this have been rough on him. He should pull thru.

Same here. We do a Zoom with is Teacher on Friday for 30 minutes but was pretty much shut down from March on. Next time he walks into that school he will have a totally different Teacher and be in 1st grade.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not surprised he's under an immense amount of pressure.

But think about it. The distancing policies are going to limit capacity in and of itself so. Also no bar seating.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Is there currently evidence that’s the case here? Seriously asking.

By that I mean slowly opening up in certain areas ****ing everything up.

it hasnt been long enough to tell IMO...


we will see.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Seems like both Florida and Georgia are doing fine.

So what gives?

have you paid much attention to this? serious question, not trying to be an ass.


look into the florida gov's policy on reporting deaths from the health depts if not.

and they arent counting people that are snowbirds.


how can you trust their numbers at that point?

[BigCatDaddy]

How long are we supposed to wait after opening before the gasoline hits the fire and we have mass hysteria?

[petegz28]

Kansas is moving to updating only Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays for covid info

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

have you paid much attention to this? serious question, not trying to be an ass.


look into the florida gov's policy on reporting deaths from the health depts if not.

and they arent counting people that are snowbirds.


how can you trust their numbers at that point?

I’m not just talking about the numbers. There’s not a lot of reports about hospitals being overrun or anything that I’ve seen. I live in Florida, FYI.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I’m not just talking about the numbers. There’s not a lot of reports about hospitals being overrun or anything that I’ve seen. I live in Florida, FYI.

well if that is all you are worried about then yeah open it all back up.