New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

They haven't won a conference title in 40 years. I suppose "dream" is the operative word here.

Don't sell them short, they are a powerhouse.

Didn't they win a conference title in softball recently? I think they also won a National baseball title in 1954 or something like that.

Don't be dissing them Tigers, they are too good for the Big 12.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Call him a **** ass.

I've got nothing against him.

Not sure what he has against me.

Just stating an opinion on a message board.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Don't sell them short, they are a powerhouse.

Didn't they win a conference title in softball recently? I think they also won a National baseball title in 1954 or something like that.

Don't be dissing them Tigers, they are too good for the Big 12.

and to think, even with all of that basketball success, still no one wanted you!

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

They haven't won a conference title in 40 years. I suppose "dream" is the operative word here.

Don't rain on the parade yo.

Facts mean nothing at this point.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

and to think, even with all of that basketball success, still no one wanted you!

Don't you realize why the SEC "wants" you?

TV sets and a beatable football program.

It is a very good fit for the SEC brass I have to say.

[Dayze]

so has MU ever won a Big 12 title?

if not, (honestly don't know), what's the difference between that and going to the SEC and having a small chance?

I don't think MU is going to be the bottom-feeder in the SEC that a lot of folks around town are claiming they will. SEC always has a top 2 elite team race, that seems to rotate between teams each year etc, whereas the Big 12 is always the same 2 (UT/OU). So aside from the rotating 2 teams in the SEC that I would say are elite/longshot to beat, MU has a good chance against the rest of the league / as much as the other SEC teams etc.

My $.02.
unrelated note, SEC cheerleaders are way hotter.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

and to think, even with all of that basketball success, still no one wanted you!

Texas wants us...

They like to give it to us real good...

[eazyb81]

http://www.greghallkc.com/?p=850#more-850

“I don’t understand this ‘security’ thing. I keep hearing that word. I don’t know what that means. (Missouri) is doing the same thing Nebraska and A&M did. They’re stroking their own ego. They’re saying, ‘We’re better than you.’ ”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM

GH: No, this is the SEC saying Missouri is better than other options. If you exit a burning building, it just means you prefer not to die.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Dayze

unrelated note, SEC cheerleaders are way hotter.

/thread over

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Are we going to get more sestuna type posters here? I'm against the SEC move based on that chance alone.

Thanks for listening.

Well, if we shed some Kansas types in the process, it will be worth it.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Dayze

so has MU ever won a Big 12 title?

if not, (honestly don't know), what's the difference between that and going to the SEC and having a small chance?

I don't think MU is going to be the bottom-feeder in the SEC that a lot of folks around town are claiming they will. SEC always has a top 2 elite team race, that seems to rotate between teams each year etc, whereas the Big 12 is always the same 2 (UT/OU). So aside from the rotating 2 teams in the SEC that I would say are elite/longshot to beat, MU has a good chance against the rest of the league / as much as the other SEC teams etc.

My $.02.
unrelated note, SEC cheerleaders are way hotter.

Yeah, I remember when Ole Miss hired Ed Orgeron and thought they were going to kick some major ass.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

huh?

He called me a name. I just said I didn't know who he was?

I guess I could call him a name back but I don't know him.

no biggie

Just letting you know that your passive-aggressive idiocy continues to irritate members of all fan bases, including your own.

Carry on.

[beer bacon]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I'm not particularly worried about Kansas City. I think the basketball tournament will still be held there, because Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State fans will still travel well there.

Even if it's not, who gives a ****? They could move it to Dallas where no one will go to it, or leave it in Kansas City, regardless of what Mizzou does.

Another angle is that the Big 12 doesn't want to surrender the Missouri side of KC to Mizzou. There is still market there for KU, KSU, and the other Big 12 programs.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

and to think, even with all of that basketball success, still no one wanted you!

Do we know that yet? I haven't heard anything about the Kansas schools crying, have you? If so, I missed it.

Here is one totally off the wall, maybe WSU could add football back and become a "player?"

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Are we going to get more sestuna type posters here? I'm against the SEC move based on that chance alone.

Thanks for listening.

Even I find that dude annoying.

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Don't sell them short, they are a powerhouse.

Didn't they win a conference title in softball recently? I think they also won a National baseball title in 1954 or something like that.

Don't be dissing them Tigers, they are too good for the Big 12.

Hey! They're going to have to get better in all sports because the Gators have a kick-ass softball team and there are several awesome baseball teams in the SEC!